From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.tos   
   From Address: ryon@dslnorthwest.net   
   Subject: Re: Those Amazing Computers!   
      
   On May 9, 6:46apm, ToolPackinMama  wrote:   
   > On 5/9/2011 5:49 PM, Ron wrote:   
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   > > On May 9, 1:57 pm, ToolPackinMama awrote:   
   > >> On 5/9/2011 2:19 AM, Ron wrote:   
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   > >>> Spock gets curious and asked the computer what things Leighton, Riley,   
   > >>> Kirk, and Karidian *had in common.*   
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   > >> Where exactly does that line of dialog occur?   
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   > >>http://www.voyager.cz/tos/epizody/13consciencekingtrans.htm   
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   > > Exactly? Start at the 20.00.00 minute mark where Spock goes to access   
   > > the computer on the bridge   
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   > > Spock: "Correlate. Check their past histories; report any items,   
   > > a a a a a a a aany past experiences they all have in common."   
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   > > Offscreen the computer tells Spock all the gory details, which he then   
   > > goes and relates to McCoy.   
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   > OK,Ron, we have no record of what the computer tells Spock, but we see   
   > Kirk asking similar questions and getting his answers, and it may be   
   > assumed that the computer eventually offered Spock the same information.   
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   > This is a common device in script-writing and is not a flaw.   
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   I got news fer ya: I have written scripts-- some of which have even   
   been shopped around Tinsel Town (Hollywood) so I do know a little   
   something about how scripts are written and plot devices.  Just   
   because a script is produced or made into  a TV show or film,  that   
   doesn't make it flawless. Somtimes the act of production can make a   
   near-perfect script turned into crap. And I don't need to list   
   examples as it would take me a lifetime to list the hundreds or   
   thousands of scripts turned bad by directors and producers.   
   I'm not gonna do a recutation of Screenwriting 101. There are almost   
   as many reasons for plot holes as there are plots. But in this case   
   it's such a minor thing that it's not really worth crying over, but   
   that doesn't mean there is no plot hole. When Spock includes Karidian   
   in the list of four possible people on Tarsus IV, he shouldn't ven   
   know about Karidian as Kirk didn't want Spock to know a damn thing but   
   who cares? Other than a few minor flaws, this is an otherwise good   
   story.   
   Good enough for Conscience to be used as the backplot for Avenger. In   
   the book, we get an explanationation for why Kodos did what he did ("I   
   was a soldier in a cause!") that ties in nicely with the death of   
   Sarek, bringing Kirk back from the events of Generations in a tight   
   TOS/Next Generation, cohesive story, that surprisingly well done.   
   Shatner wanted Paramount to produce it but Paramount wanted only Next   
   Gen stories--  which was rather unfortunate since those died a sad and   
   lonely death at the theaters.   ;-)   
   Ron   
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