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   Message 18,167 of 20,898   
   Dragon Lady to All   
   Re: THE SHAT won't be in Crap Trek 2   
   24 Aug 11 21:04:50   
   
   From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.tos   
   From Address: sgtsaak@comcast.net   
   Subject: Re: THE SHAT won't be in Crap Trek 2   
      
      
   "Kyle Haight"  wrote in message    
   news:Cuydncdcq9967cjTnZ2dnUVZ_qidnZ2d@giganews.com...   
   > In article ,   
   > Dragon Lady  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>Oh, it's being taught.  They are just being forced to pass kids that when    
   >>we   
   >>were growing up would have flunked.  The direct result, I suspect, of "No   
   >>child left behind".   
   >   
   > I suspect the problems go back a lot further than that.  When I   
   > turned in my first college writing assignment back in 1990, the   
   > TA's sole comment was a plaintive "Somewhere, you learned how to   
   > write."   
      
   I suspect you're right, because it was '85 when I took English Comp in    
   college.  But it's certainly gotten more prevalent with that ridiculous    
   policy.   
      
      
   >   
   >>Although honestly, when I was in college comp class, and we had to correct   
   >>other people's papers, (I was 30 then), I wondered how some of them got    
   >>out   
   >>of high school.  One guy didn't know the difference between their,    
   >>they're,   
   >>and there.  He used every one of them in the wrong.   
   >   
   > For that, I blame the use of the Look-Say method for teaching reading.   
   > When you teach kids that the overall look of the word is what matters   
   > and you downplay the ability to analyze words into their phonetic   
   > and morphological components, the fact that they treat words that look   
   > similar as interchangeable isn't surprising.   
      
   A lot depends on the teacher.  What you're talking about is not teaching    
   English.  They're teaching these kids to read.  Unfortunately, it interfers    
   with actually teaching English.  It's a wonder anybody can make it through    
   high school.   
      
   >   
   > More fundamental and more frightening, though, is the suspicion that   
   > the incoherence of their writing is simply an accurate reflection of   
   > the incoherence of their thinking.   
      
   Of course their thinking is incoherent.  TPTB don't want us to think.  They    
   want us to follow orders.  That's been evident for many years.  People who    
   think for themselves don't blindly follow political parties, don't vote the    
   same politicians in over and over again despite evidence that they are    
   sending the economy into the toilet, etc., etc.  It's why we have terrorist    
   alert systems, because the more frightened the public is, the less capable    
   of thinking they are, and it makes it look like the government is actually    
   in control of something uncontrollable.   
      
   Ok, rant over.   
      
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