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   Message 18,091 of 20,898   
   ToolPackinMama to All   
   Re: "Tholian Web" Notes (K/S) [Humor, co   
   22 Sep 11 12:32:46   
   
   From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.tos   
   From Address: philnblanc@comcast.net   
   Subject: Re: "Tholian Web" Notes (K/S) [Humor, commentary]   
      
   On 9/22/2011 12:02 AM, Ron wrote:   
      
   > Thos people would have risked their lives for each other because they   
   > were mor than friends, they were family. you can't argue this; you see   
   > it when McCoy hypoed both Kirk and Spock, to be tortured to a   
   > senseless death rather than let spock's prescious mind be destroyed.   
   > So don't make out Spock's devotion to Kirk to be any greater than that   
   > of McCoy-- or Sulu, or Scotty, Chekov, or Uhura.   
      
   No... there is something obviously special between Kirk and Spock.   
      
   http://allyourtrekarebelongto.us/turnabout.html   
      
   It's frankly stated outright to be special, many times.   
      
   http://allyourtrekarebelongto.us/yours.jpg   
      
   It's also demonstrated to be special, many times.   
      
   http://allyourtrekarebelongto.us/simplefeeling.html   
      
   Others in their universe also recognize that their relationship is    
   special, and when they don't it's obvious that those folks are blind as    
   bats.   
      
   http://allyourtrekarebelongto.us/backrub.html   
      
   Even Roddenberry admitted that Kirk and Spock have a special    
   relationship, a love relationship, and that _that_ was by design.   
      
   << We [the interviewers] tell Gene [Roddenberry] something of our recent    
   interview with Bill [Shatner] and Leonard [Nimoy] - touching on the    
   Kirk-Spock relationship, and Nimoy's feeling that Kirk was essential to    
   Spock's life:   
      
   "I know you've told us you designed that relationship as 'Two halves    
   which come together to make a whole'. Is that how you still see it?"   
      
   [Roddenberry]: "Oh yes. As I've said, I definitely designed it as a love    
   relationship. I think that's what we're all about - love, the effort to    
   reach out to each other. I think that's a lovely thing. Also,    
   dramatically, I designed Kirk and Spock to complete each other."  >>   
      
   <<[the interviewers]:  "There's a great deal of writing in the Star Trek    
   movement which compares the relationship between Alexander and    
   Hephaistion* to the relationship between Kirk and Spock - focusing on    
   the closeness of the friendship, the feeling that they would die for one    
   another..."   
      
   [Roddenberry]: "Yes, there's certainly some of that - certainly with    
   love overtones. Deep love...we certainly had the feeling that the    
   affection was sufficient for that >>   
      
   [From: Shatner: Where No Man...: The Authorized Biography of William    
   Shatner (Chapter 7 - Page 145, 147-8)]   
      
   In short, Ron, you are wrong.  Kirk and Spock DO have an especially    
   passionate love and devotion for one another, and it is NOT identical to    
   what they feel for others aboard the ship.   
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
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