From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.tos   
   From Address: fozzibear01@gmail.com   
   Subject: Re: The Way to Eden: my review   
      
      
      
   "Ron"  wrote in message    
   news:84315c95-18a0-4a1f-87cb-0e1c7e1cc49f@f36g2000pri.googlegroups.com...   
      
   On Mar 1, 6:53 am, Graeme  wrote:   
   > On Mar 1, 1:18 am, Ron  wrote:   
   >   
   > > On Feb 24, 9:54 pm, ToolPackinMama  wrote:> On    
   > > 2/24/2011 8:50 PM, Anim8rFSK wrote:   
   >   
   > > > > But "Starship Class" is canon TOS.   
   >   
   > > > Pffft.  Lithium AND dilithium are both TOS canon.   
   >   
   > It's canon that people used both those terms.  As to what the precise   
   > scientific term is, that's not certain.  It *appears* from usage that   
   > dilithium is the real name and lithium is a kind of shorthand slang   
   > term, but that's not definite.  It's equally possible that they're two   
   > different things, and that the Enterprise's power source changed   
   > during the course of the show.   
   >   
   > > > Vulcanian AND Vulcan are both TOS canon.   
   >   
   > Istanbul and Constantinople are both real world canon, but that's   
   > nobody's business but the Turks.   
   >   
   > > > Early on, they didn't have shuttles.   
   >   
   > In face, this was never stated onscreen.  It's something somebody   
   > guessed from the fact that they weren't used in Enemy Within, but was   
   > not the only possibility that fit the facts.  Therefore, not canon.   
   > The ship was designed with a shuttle bay, after all, so it's not even   
   > likely.   
   >   
   > > > James R. Kirk AND James T. Kirk are both canon.  What ya gonna do?   
   >   
   > > Such things become knowwn as "Changed premises" and then are   
   > > forgotten. It's now James T. and it will always be--   
   >   
   > See the definition of canon.  "Appeared onscreen and was never   
   > contradicted" definitely fits it.  As he said, both are canon, and the   
   > fact that we're discussing it proves it isn't forgotten, so that's a   
   > bit of a red herring.  As to what we're going to do, we're going to   
   > guess whether his name is James T. R. Kirk, or James R. T. Kirk.  I   
   > favor the former, but neither is definite.  The idea that the R stands   
   > for Roy is not canon and doubtless never will be, but I hope to   
   > elevate it to the status of Fanon some day.   
      
   The "R." stood for Reggie-- so he had it legally changed when he went   
   into the Academy.   
      
   Ron   
      
   according to the league of hot space babes of the week (an ancient    
   organisation that i just completely made up 5 seconds ago) it actually    
   stands for Roger   
      
   (runs)   
      
   cheers   
   Fozzi   
      
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