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   On 10/19/2012 6:34 AM, MikeHall@outlook.cam wrote:   
   > Nope. Some disgruntled coal miner writes a letter and signs a number   
   > of names to it   
      
   Let's remind folks what a total LUSER you are..   
      
      
   Here's the real ?@qmail.not in all his self-righteous, senile,    
   slobbering self-pity:   
      
      
      
      
   If I did go back to work, there is no way I could earn enough to pay   
   for health care. My wife had a serious bout with cancer and the costs   
   were over $180,000. I was operated on last year with a cost of   
   $47,000. There is no way I could earn that kind of money and that's   
   why we started Medicare/Medicaid in the first place. FDR was right   
   with the start of SS & LBJ was right with Medicare. It may not be   
   what you want, but there are too many people who need it.   
      
      
      
      
   I swore never to be silent whenever human beings endure suffering and   
   humiliation. We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the   
   oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never   
   the tormented. While this may be a noble endeavor, time often   
   restricts what we can continue to do. I do not spend nearly as much   
   time on usenet as you do. I simply don't have that kind of free time.   
      
   <1msl28l407mr7i005c00gu5mbcc8dorkg6@4ax.com>   
      
   Right now Medicare payments are   
   being cut and my supplement insurance is picking up the difference. I   
   am therefore paying more for my supplemental insurance. If I have pay   
   more to keep the system solvent, I am willing to as long as I can   
   afford it. Some measure should be in place for those who can't. Right   
   now we had or used to have Medicaid. Many doctors/hospitals are no   
   longer accepting Medicaid. Is Medicare next?   
      
      
      
   Obama is not a failure at anything yet but those who insist he is   
   because he wouldn't do things they way they want him to, well, they   
   have failed as Americans and shouldn't even live in my country.   
      
      
      
   The ecomony is where it is because of a   
   nation that doesn't give a dam about anyone else but itself and   
   employers who have an insatiable desire for all the money, all of it.   
   Did it ever dawn on you that if we let them get away with it, the rest   
   of us won't have any? The incompetent ass is you.   
      
   <65cl38lgun94nmj5kc2jn86cmdqn8h3b38@4ax.com>   
      
   The Phony Kernel is just about gone. That is the only point. IF he   
   was in nam it was as one of the vietcong.   
      
      
      
      
   Your face is like my ass. I don't have to look at   
   either. I'd just settle to see scum like you out of my country. You   
   Anti-Americans don't deserve to live here.   
      
   <428h489p23tv9nds7ouub7rg1fpuorda7f@4ax.com>   
      
   For the safety of the public who lives in your area, I'll revise the    
   suggestion, go outside and shoot into the ground. Don't miss your foot    
   now. Wait for the police to come. If they don't come in a few minutes    
   do it again. Oh, and wear your T-Shirt with Target's logo on the front    
   and the Second Amendment on the back. Then see how long you get to keep    
   your gun.   
      
      
      
   after I wake up from my nap I'll have the time to read your lengthy   
   rant......snip!   
      
      
      
   Hahha, you are mentally degranged. I am far from tortured, idiot.   
      
      
   <5d9u48138slth1gbc7vd2r0m4asdohfmv1@4ax.com>   
      
   More customers will never drive costs down, only up. Since I've been   
   using Medicare, doctors are doing their best to drain it from as many   
   sources as they can. I am diabetic. A few years ago, I was seeing my   
   doctor once a year. I saw my labs twice a year. If there was something   
   wrong in mid-year the doctor called me in or changed my meds without   
   ever seeing me. My control is still good. The ADA says I should target   
   to be below 7.0 AIC. I have been consistently between 7.0 and 6.0. No   
   change but BUT, today I see my doctor 8 times a year and the lab 4   
   times a year, every 3 months instead of 6. The ADA says I should be   
   between 120-130 for my Blood Sugar. I average below 120 yet one of my   
   health care professionals told us we need to be between 65 and 99. Why   
   the low numbers? It's called "Marketting". I can't allow myself to   
   get below 80 or I become hyper-glycemic. Since we are talking about a   
   serious health issue, let me add:   
      
   I have been diabetic since 2005. The only change in my blood sugar   
   took place when 3 doctors tried to change my meds 3 different times   
   when all was going well. The changes didn't work and I had to double   
   up on meds to get back under control. So the changes were not for me,   
   they were for my doctor. I have read almost everything I could get my   
   hands on about diabetes. I learned that what works for me may not   
   work for you or for anyone else. One has to play with things a little   
   to get a system down and stick with it unless a change occurs that you   
   didn't cause. I use Splenda for sweetener. Works just fine. I know two   
   people who cannot use it. It raises their blood sugar.   
      
   I can suggest one thing I did. A doctor once took me off Glipicide and   
   put me on Atcos which is being advertised by the legal guys as a drug   
   with possible side affects causing bladder cancer. I quit the Atcos.   
   I then asked my doctor a serious question. First telling him that I   
   am not the patient with 4 million dollars under my mattress. I don't   
   have enough to take care of all my meds. SO....which ones should I   
   stop taking that will extend my life as long as possible and give me   
   the most time to get my affairs in order since I am going to die? I   
   guess that shocked his ass because he came up with all sorts of   
   generic answers to my problem. I also did go off some of the drugs.   
      
   Right now I battle (if you can call it that) bladder infections. So   
   far I have had two days in the hospital, where it took two days to   
   drip 2 bags of saline solution into me (I was dehydrated). I had this   
   exact same thing two years ago in another hospital and they gave me 3   
   bags and let me go home that same day. I wasn't told to stay. Here,   
   they didn't want me to leave. In fact one of their Chinese nurses told   
   me I had e-coli. I didn't realize it at the time but they never took   
   any stool specimens. e-coli does not show up in the bladder according   
   to what I read. This China nurse spoke very bad engish. SO now they do   
   come here to work, build bridges and help themselves to my tax money.   
   I am going through test after test right now to find out why I had two   
   bouts with bladder infections. Right in the book on diabetes, that is   
   the cause and they can't cure diabetes or can they? With bridge   
   replacements, the Chinese are doing that right now and the idiots   
   blamed that on Obama. Well, he didn't do that. And I've carried on   
   long enough. I am not Obama's friend but I am not his enemy as either   
   position would not serve any purpose whatsoever. If we have any enemy   
   it is the congress, not the president regardless of who he turns out   
   to be. I know, I know the diehard wingnut has to disagree with me but   
   that's Ok. I disagree with them. Regards and good luck to anyone with   
   diabetes.   
      
      
      
   I am no longer concerned with peaks. Now it's the valleys.   
   Sometimes I get too low and I can tell, I get the shakes.   
   For that I keep Oatmeal Raisin Cookies on hand. Two will   
   do the trick. If I get too low and need a quick flush, I drink   
   a glass of orange juice. Also have to add when I became   
   diabetic, I am over 6 feet tall and weighed in at 278. I now   
   weigh 238 and I gain more control of the diabetes as I lose.   
   I also take the dog out every evening. I walk 1 mile. If I   
   take my blood sugar reading before and after the walk, I   
   lose 30 points by walking the mile.   
      
   One other thing. I was taking Lovastastin for Cholesterol.   
   My doc sent me an email saying he was changing that to   
   Simvastatin. That one change 40 mg to 40 mg resulted in   
   an average lowering of my blood sugar of 30 points. One   
   other thing and I wouldn't take too much stock in this, in   
   fact I am afraid to try it. A penpal in Austria became an MD.   
   I told him my numbers and he said, "American doctors must   
   be getting a payback for the medicines they prescribe. Your   
   Cholesterol is not that high for a man your age. IF you stop   
   the cholesterol meds, you may find out that your diabetes   
   goes away. Yeah, I'm afraid but I have to add this. I went   
   on Lovastatin first. A year later he diagnosed me as being in   
   Adult Diabetes. Did it? I don't know and if Medicare goes   
   the way it seems to be going, (away) I may have to control   
   my diabetes with diet and exercize. I'll go vegan. It's either   
   that or move to Yuma where the Mexican border is reasonably   
   safe and I can jump across for doctor and Rx. There is an   
   entire town in Arizona called Green Valley. The average age   
   there is 76 years old. They are 20 minutes from the border so   
   I can guess why they live there. It's hot and no trees.   
      
      
      
   I have a set of diabetic inserts. They do work and I still   
   have the same ones prescribed to me 5 years ago. The   
   Diabetic shoes are more expensive and I'm told only are   
   supposed to last 6 months. I only use my inserts with   
   dress shoes.   
   For around the house I use sandals with Dr. Sholls and   
   other inserts in them. I use them even if I go out for a   
   short shopping trip, see a movie or go out to dinner. I   
   have 4 pairs of these slippers/sandals and even walk my   
   mile each night with them. I switch sandals during the   
   day I may use all 4 of them. My feet are bad but not   
   getting any worse.   
   And last, everyone is different. I had to experiment and   
   see what worked. I was using One-Touch tabs and my   
   insurance was paying for them. I used a lot of them.   
   Now that I am under control, I buy "Reli-On" tabs. I did   
   check them against One-Touch. The readings were the   
   same. I buy what I can afford and everyone is different.   
   Good luck with your diabetes.   
      
      
      
      
   The best health care I had in the last 15 years was by Kaiser   
   Permanente where doctors work directly for the company. I never met   
   one who was unhappy working for Kaiser.   
      
   I don't drink coffee, so I need no sweetener,   
   but my body makes insulin at a slow rate no   
   matter how much medicine I take, so eating   
   less per meal is the answer as long as the   
   A1c is below 7.0.   
      
   I have never missed a vote and almost always   
   vote against the encumbant. Not much else one   
   vote can do.   
      
   I do not do well with potatoes. I seem to do better with rice. I   
   actually like the fast dinners, I like Marie Callendar best.   
      
   <0b6158h58tm9phdr5qvtrup4t4neepi1hi@4ax.com>   
      
   Not part of this issue. The country recoved from the war eventually.   
   We have yet to stop this war after 22 years. That is the issue you   
   can't spin off in one of your wild directions.   
      
      
      
   Maybe you could try respecting your president and if you are so   
   against him, vote with your pen and not your mouth. You only know   
   what one party makes up about him. Do you even think that they will   
   approve of any democrat? You should expect their BS and take it with   
   a grain of salt. As you look at Obama's actions, try to understand   
   why. You won't have to look far, look at George W Bush. They don't   
   like blaming him but then they don't like blaming themselves for   
   anything.   
      
      
      
      
   Both parties spend money like it was theirs to do whatever they want   
   to do with it. They spend it differently. Democrats would see it go   
   to people while republicans want to go to businesses (that they are   
   invested in) Not so difficult to understand. But since that means I   
   have to pay their taxs so they won't have to, I'm going to fight them   
   here and in the trenches.   
      
      
      
   This has been an increasing problem. I was dumped by a doctor. He   
   billed my insurance didn't like what they paid him so he tried to bill   
   me for the difference. When I refused (Insurance company told me to)   
   I was unable to get in touch with him for an appointment or otherwise.   
   He even ordered some blood workup that was incomplete. He did that   
   3 times. When I came home one day from first seeing him, my neighbor   
   asked how it went. I told her who the doctor was and she said, "I   
   thought he was dead." A lot older than me he was. He was the doctor   
   who changed my Glipicide over to Atcos which is being advertised by   
   lawyers who sue for bladder cancer.   
      
    I know several people who too lump sums and regretted doing so. I   
   have two private pensions and they have both paid me more than I put   
   into them. In December I will be retired 5 years.   
      
   Living the life of an RV'er is not such a bad way to go. We have been   
   traveling a lot and all along the routes we see permanent RV'ers   
   hooked up to the sites. I thought about doing that and if not for a   
   wife that insists on a nest somewhere, I would be full time Rv'ing   
   myself. There are clubs where you can join, pay the fees and even with   
   the fees spend less than $10 a night for a spot to park, water, sewer,   
   trash, Cable TV as well as Internet. The only extra is electicity.   
   There is no cheaper way to live.   
      
   I am as guilty, especially during the holidays.   
   Chocolate covered cherries, holiday cookies   
   which were shortbread, a dab of fudge and a   
   cherry or walnut cut in half. I did grow up in   
   a home that did not buy convenience foods.   
   My mother had diabetes and now I have it as well.   
      
      
      
      
   In most other points in our party's history, Obama would fit in well as    
   a Republican.   
      
   <1ia6585jd3h8kqdo80v188ibbj12n9go1m@4ax.com>   
      
   The human race has infected   
   this planet as it is in our nature to destroy ourselves.   
      
   <83s7589sm0451jq423jf1sl6vfgf42g9ca@4ax.com>   
      
   You're still posting   
   with a dirty sock so you can bet your in most kill files. You don't   
   deserve to live in this country, and you are a traitor to the American   
   way of life.   
      
      
      
      
   You know that wasn't very funny when you sent out information about   
   your own departure. Do you know what we spend on the party!!!!!! Just   
   in time to find out you were still alive. Dam you're mean.   
      
   <4l895810rhao62c3hmabtn17ig446efdaa@4ax.com>   
      
   Fair? Hahah. You should be David Letterman's show with that kind of   
   bullshit. You make up the script as you go along .   
      
      
      
   Your insane, completely bonkers.   
      
   <9uo958d99bd65i0n71t83r0m0meef5hs6q@4ax.com>   
      
   Sooneror later you only drown in your own puke all by yourself anyway.    
   Read the last sentence below. Read it 14 times. You are young but your   
   mind hasn't formed yet and it takes repetition to get the data to sink   
   in.   
      
      
      
   And here I thought we just went through this? Must be my senility, so   
   once again, No, I don't even try to keep up with a teenager. I'm too   
   old for that.   
      
   <7s1a58pps17bkkijq10oorordn7rb9mu5l@4ax.com>   
      
   Outlast you at what? At least I have a brain. The only sick person   
   here is you. Did you happen to have sex with a monkey? Get HIV?   
   You have the ramblings of an addict. What are you on?   
      
      
      
   I just received my Medicare RX   
   booklet and the prices did go up. Holy cow. Next year I get to pay   
   ..60¢ more a month. Good Grief, that's like $7.20 a year. Oh, how will   
   we survive under ObamaCare? Oh, woe is me. Hahahaha.   
      
      
      
   I don’t care if someone doesn’t like   
   the President but I do care if the   
   reason is lie!   
      
      
   <78ha58d3da3sviprbkipbu2tppncu8enae@4ax.com>   
      
   a post or two before you almost sounded like you were in a reasonable   
   discussion. Now you sound like yourself, an asshole.   
      
      
      
      
   In the meantime, have a good evening. I am just so old I need to go   
   to bed.   
      
      
      
   You are taking your "tour" by yourself.   
   It is time to stop now. You are an idiot and a liar and   
   impossible to hold a conversation with people like you.   
   You'll call this a debate when it clearly is not and then call   
   yourself the winner regardless of how it comes out. Caught   
   in a lie you make up a new one. Typical right wing.   
      
   There is a clinical diagnosis. You won't see things the   
   way average people see them. You are in own little world   
   occasionally dragging someone else in there with you.   
      
   Posting with you is like an argument in Kindergarten   
   Yawwwwn   
      
      
      
      
      
   Hooo weee....get the Glipicide and Dr. Scholls sandals out....we got a    
   live one here gang...for now anyway...   
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