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|  Re: DOLF eats hagelslag (25/27)  |
|  11 Jul 25 16:48:19  |
 [continued from previous message] >>>>>>>>> to explore how this concept maps onto other traditions or >>>>>>>>> symbolic systems?" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> DOLF: "Can it also mean "going to the grave" or hell as a place >>>>>>>>> of no return?" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> COPILOT @ 1849 HRS ON 2 JULY 2025: "Yes, in many theological >>>>>>>>> and symbolic interpretations, being “expunged from the Book of >>>>>>>>> Life” is closely associated with irreversible separation from >>>>>>>>> divine presence, which can be understood as: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> GOING TO THE GRAVE: In some Hebrew Bible contexts, especially >>>>>>>>> in Psalms and prophetic literature, being “blotted out” or “cut >>>>>>>>> off” can imply premature death or removal from the covenantal >>>>>>>>> community. The grave (Sheol) is often portrayed as a shadowy >>>>>>>>> realm of silence and forgetfulness—a place where one no longer >>>>>>>>> participates in the living memory of God. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> HELL AS A PLACE OF NO RETURN: In Christian eschatology, >>>>>>>>> particularly in Revelation 20:15, those not found in the Book >>>>>>>>> of Life are “cast into the lake of fire”. This is interpreted >>>>>>>>> by many as eternal separation from God—a final, unalterable >>>>>>>>> state of judgment. The imagery of being “thrown” into this >>>>>>>>> realm underscores its forceful and irreversible nature. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> SYMBOLIC LAYER: Beyond literalism, the phrase can also signify: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> • Moral exile: a soul so alienated from truth or >>>>>>>>> goodness that it no longer resonates with the divine order. >>>>>>>>> • Ontological erasure: not annihilation, but being >>>>>>>>> forgotten by the cosmos, no longer part of the unfolding story >>>>>>>>> of life and meaning. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So yes—whether as grave, hell, or cosmic oblivion, the phrase >>>>>>>>> evokes a point of no return, where the soul is no longer >>>>>>>>> inscribed in the ledger of life, memory, or redemption. If >>>>>>>>> you’d like, we can explore how this concept compares with other >>>>>>>>> traditions—like the Egyptian “weighing of the heart” or the >>>>>>>>> Buddhist notion of karmic obscuration. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> DOLF: "Would you concur that it is an expression intrinsic to >>>>>>>>> Christian belief: "AND FEAR NOT THEM WHICH KILL THE BODY, BUT >>>>>>>>> ARE NOT ABLE TO KILL THE SOUL: BUT RATHER FEAR HIM WHICH IS >>>>>>>>> ABLE TO DESTROY BOTH SOUL AND BODY IN HELL." [Matthew 10:28] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> COPILOT @ 1857 HRS ON 2 JULY 2025: "Absolutely—it’s deeply >>>>>>>>> intrinsic to Christian theology, particularly in how it frames >>>>>>>>> divine authority over both physical and eternal life. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Matthew 10:28 is a striking verse where Jesus draws a sharp >>>>>>>>> distinction between human power (which can end the body) and >>>>>>>>> divine power (which governs the soul’s destiny). The phrase >>>>>>>>> “destroy both soul and body in hell” (Greek: Gehenna) >>>>>>>>> underscores a uniquely Christian eschatological view: that God >>>>>>>>> alone holds ultimate judgment, not just over temporal life but >>>>>>>>> over eternal consequence. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This verse also reinforces a core Christian theme: fear of God >>>>>>>>> not as terror, but as reverent awe of the One who transcends >>>>>>>>> earthly threats. It’s a call to moral courage—don’t fear >>>>>>>>> persecution or death, but live in alignment with the One who >>>>>>>>> holds the keys to both life and afterlife. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So yes, this expression is not only intrinsic—it’s foundational >>>>>>>>> to Christian teachings on judgment, the soul’s immortality, and >>>>>>>>> the sovereignty of God over all realms. If you’re exploring how >>>>>>>>> this connects to the “Book of Life” or broader metaphysical >>>>>>>>> systems [NOTE: THIS IS THE CONTEXT OF THE SECOND TELEPHONE >>>>>>>>> CALL], we can trace that thread further." >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <-- WHICH IS THEN AN IRREFUTABLE GROUNDING FOR THE MAKING OF A >>>>>>>>> PRIMA FACIE CLAIM OF #306 - PERFIDE ALBION (IRISH / ITALIAN >>>>>>>>> CATHOLIC ANTI- STATEM RELIGIOUS PERSECUTION) / 31 AUGUST 1942 >>>>>>>>> TETRA #57 - THESIS (SATOR / TENET / ROTAS) AGAINST ERII - >>>>>>>>> PRIVATE JAKE KOVCO'S SELF INFLICTED GUNSHOT 21 APRIL 2006 / >>>>>>>>> PRINCE PHILIP'S BIRTHDAY 10 JUNE 2017 - POPPY WREATH AT BOER >>>>>>>>> WAR MEMORIAL / TREASON BY WELLINGTON SHIRE COUNCILLOR SCOTT >>>>>>>>> ROSSETTI / ARCHBISHOP OF MELBOURNE PETER COMENSOLI THROUGH >>>>>>>>> MARRIAGE OF THE PYTHAGOREAN REGIMES OF BELIEF WITH GERMAN >>>>>>>>> NAZISM [ROMAN PROTOTYPE #TWO: #102 ... #218 ... #306] / [LUO >>>>>>>>> SHU TABLE TALK: #239 - cáng (藏): *HIDDEN* / zh ngxīn (中心): >>>>>>>>> *HEART* / gǔ (骨): *FRAME*; *FRAMEWORK* ... #459] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> WE NOT ONLY DEMAND THE DEATH PENALTY IS RE-INSTATED BY EDICT OF >>>>>>>>> THE GOVERNOR-GENERAL AND THESE PERSONS GIVE AN IMMEDIATE >>>>>>>>> ACCOUNTABILITY >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> MR BOEK (TRANSCRIPT 5 DECEMBER 2001): "Yes, ma'am, I have - you >>>>>>>>> would have noticed that there were no actual words of threat >>>>>>>>> (NOTING THAT ON 28 OCTOBER 2001 THE POLICE DID NOT RESPOND TO >>>>>>>>> ANY PERCEIVED THREAT WHEN SUBJECT TO THE SAME POEM). They were >>>>>>>>> words that were based on fact in that particular phone call. >>>>>>>>> Here I have a particular mathematical model which is mentioned >>>>>>>>> in that particular phone call. It is based upon a work by >>>>>>>>> Johann Kepler, a German astronomer born in 1571 to 1630. He >>>>>>>>> came up with three rules of which I have come up with a fourth >>>>>>>>> [associated to the ephemeral and mundane as a transcendent >>>>>>>>> fecundate connection to the Vernal and the Autumn Equinox in >>>>>>>>> the 6th year of the 22nd Course of Gamul: 7 x 24 x 13 x 49 = 6J >>>>>>>>> as 107016 days or 294 x 364 days or 365.2423 x 293 years - >>>>>>>>> Vernal Equinox Wednesday 20 March 1996 / 21 March]. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> His three rules in terms of astronomical cycles were: (1) that >>>>>>>>> the planet... And then I will get to my bit of relevance to the >>>>>>>>> 6000 years. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> THE D.PRESIDENT: Yes, yes, yes. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> MR BOEK: (1) That the planets move in elliptical orbits around >>>>>>>>> the sun which is situated at one of the focus of the ellipses; >>>>>>>>> (2) that the radius vectors joining each planet to the sun >>>>>>>>> describes equal areas in equal times; (3) that the ratio of the >>>>>>>>> square of the planet's year to the cube of the planet's mean >>>>>>>>> distance from the sun is the same for each planet. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Now, what I am suggesting is that the 6000 year cycle (ie. >>>>>>>>> temporality #400 (x 365.2423 [7 x 24 x 13 x 49 / 293 years or >>>>>>>>> 6J as 294 x 364 days] = 146,097 days) % 22 = 17 SEPTEMBER / >>>>>>>>> #6000 years % 22 = 13 SEPTEMBER 2001) fits a mathematical model >>>>>>>>> on logic and reason called Telos equals Arch plus C-squared: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Telos [122J3W1D] = Arch [3W1D] + c² [9(9²+1)/2] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> NOTE: WHICH IS ANALOGOUS TO THE PYTHAGOREAN EQUATION: c² = a² + >>>>>>>>> b² / #174 - COEFFICIENT) / #7 - SCIENCE (#TOOLS) = #3 - ASKING >>>>>>>>> ABOUT SHEN [#38 - tiān dào (天道): THE WAY OF HEAVEN] + #4 - >>>>>>>>> FIVE HUNDRED YEARS = 293 (6J) + 207 - FOUNDATIONS? >>>>>>>>> [continued in next message] --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05 * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2) |
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