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|  Pro-Humanist FREELOVER to All  |
|  Do you believe in believing?  |
|  10 Jul 07 20:25:20  |
 XPost: alt.agnosticism, talk.atheism, alt.atheism XPost: alt.philosophy From: prohumanist@gr8mail.com - - - Probably, the first instinctive reaction to that would be that it depends on what one is being asked to believe in. Certainly, very few believe in Zeus these days. The Hindu panoply of Gods, probably there are hundreds of millions of believers in India, but small numbers in the rest of the world. The God called Allah, really big in many areas of the Middle East, in Indonesia, and in assorted other areas of the world visited by Islamic proselytizers. The God called God, along with his son called Christ Jesus, varying degrees of belief and a wide assortment of religions in many areas of the world. So, needless to say, a lot of people believe in believing in a particular version (or versions) of a particular Super Being, but much less so or not at all when it comes to believing in ver- sions apart from their own or when it comes to believing in a Super Being or Super Beings only -if- it/they were to evidence itself/themselves in an indisputable manner, in the natural world, in the present day, freed from second-hand story- telling which goes by the name 'hearsay', or which is best characterized as 'myth'. - - - In essence, everything believed in by religious folks is 'hearsay', and myth, passed down tales from a very superstitious age of ignorance in which inventing Gods and God tales was quite a creative enterprise for many. - - - Conclusion Any God worth following would not depend on handed-down storytelling -and- would not de- pend on claims and promises easily concocted by humans, but instead, would be evident, real, as substantial as is this computer I'm entering this post on. Anyone got any Gods like that to offer? Until anyone does, religious stories and seduc- tive promises (and threats) are empty of sub- stance, loaded with unsubstantiated claims, and unbelievable. Calls to have faith, only made because bounte- ous evidence exists that religious tales are simply make believe. In human imagination, however, calls to have faith are very powerful due to religious seduc- tions (the primary one being a pleasant immor- tality), and its buddy, religious threats. Of note, religions can encourage actions which can be beneficial to humankind in some ways, but unfortunately, they can also encourage actions which can be harmful to humankind in many ways, so harmful that the benefit and the promises aren't worth it. Let's stop with the claims and the promises (and threats), and instead, let's only follow a God that can lead without human intervention. Until that day or night or event, I remain ... - - - ¤ - ¤ - ¤ - ¤ - ¤ - ¤ - ¤ - ¤ - ¤ - ¤ - ¤ - ¤ ~~~ Pro-Humanist FREELOVER http://fire.prohosting.com/prohuman Freethinking Realist Exploring Expressive Liberty, Openness, Verity, Enlightenment, & Rationality ~~~ --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05 * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2) |
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