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     Re: How to format / upload ANSI art directly into message?   
     By: Digital Man to Hm Derdoc on Mon Sep 29 2025 10:48 am   
      
    > I'm not clear why you would need to insert line feeds. You probably   
   shouldn't need to ( > assume the lines would already be terminated with line   
   feeds). Inserting line feeds int > the middle of arbitrary ANSI escape   
   sequences isn't likely to produce the output you wa   
   I started inserting line feeds because when I'd upload a file that was 38 rows   
   or so, it   
   would say "5 lines" inserted, and it would render on 5 lines, so it seemed   
   like getting   
   that count up to the right number as my ANSI might give it the space it needed   
   to render,   
   it did wind up with more vertical space, however alignment was still off   
   horizontally.  DoANSI editors insert line feeds by default though to wrap   
   text? It's my understanding that   
   could also be controlled by the terminals own wrapping behavior or an escape   
   sequence   
   telling it to go x = 1, y = y + 1... That is to say it doesn't seem like the   
   ANSI   
   editor(s) I've used insert those, but I could be wrong I guess, but if they   
   were there I'dexpect to see 38 lines uploaded when I just uploaded the   
   untransformed output from pablo   
   draw or moebius.     
      
    > Have you tried displaying the file locally (before uploading) but after   
   your script   
      
    I've been looking at the transformations in Moebius to see if they are wonky,   
   some come   
   out fine, others don't look great but I still upload em in my test group to   
   see if they   
   solved anything.  I just decided to drop one into a directory I can use   
   echicken's   
   ansiviewer, and it looks ok there too.  I do sort of wonder if my ANSI is too   
   ambitious,   
   so I've sort of been trying just to render a much more basic rectangle, was   
   out of   
   alignment last I checked too.  I wonder if using 80 cols is too much sometimes   
   for an ad.   
      
    > processes the file?   
    > One other thing, your QWKnet tag line appears to be using an unsupported   
   method of Ctrl > code insertion, "\1" isn't how it's done in the   
    > SCFG->Networks->QWK->Default Tagline. You should be able to just type a   
   literal Ctrl-A   
    > character/key sequence there.   
      
   Ahh thanks, I was wondering what it looked like, I couldn't see it in my own   
   messages, I   
   edited some raw text file to set that up so that's why I used \1, wasn't sure   
   it would   
   work, and now it's been confirmed not to ;)   
      
   Maybe there's some oddities to be taken into consideration when creating BBS   
   ads, I'd   
   certainly start over from scratch if I knew I was using wrong technique before   
   and right   
   technique going forward.   
      
   Cheers,   
   hm   
      
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