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     Re: .?lo files disappearing error 11   
     By: deon to Digital Man on Mon Jun 02 2025 05:57 pm   
      
    > Howdy,   
    >   
    > I've just discovered something weird, that has been happening for a month or   
    > two. Probably since I moved from x86_64 to aarch64.   
    >   
    > When outbound FTN mail is created, sbbsecho is correctly placing the .?lo   
    > file in the zone oubound dir, and triggering binkit to send it.   
    >   
    > It seems when binkit calls the remote, when it goes to open the .?lo file to   
    > see what to send, its gone. I can re-produce this pretty easily, its   
    > happening for all my FTN networks.   
    >   
    > As a consequence, no mail gets sent.   
    >   
    > Here is an except from syslog:   
    >   
    > Jun 02 15:42:47 ? local1.info synchronet: evnt FIDOOUT Running native timed   
    > event: /opt/sbbs/exec/sbbsecho -ni   
    > Jun 02 15:42:49 ? local1.info synchronet: evnt FIDOOUT Timed event:   
    > '/opt/sbbs/exec/sbbsecho -ni' returned 0   
    > Jun 02 15:42:50 ? local1.info synchronet: evnt BBS Events Semaphore signaled   
    > for Timed Event: BINKOUT   
    > Jun 02 15:42:50 ? local1.info synchronet: evnt BINKOUT Running native timed   
    > event: ?binkit   
    > Jun 02 15:42:50 ? local1.info synchronet: evnt BINKOUT BinkIT/2.41 invoked   
    > with options:   
    > Jun 02 15:42:51 ? local1.info synchronet: evnt BINKOUT Attempting callout   
    > for 12:1/1@dovenet, file: /opt/sbbs/fido/outbound.00c/00010001.dlo   
    > Jun 02 15:42:51 ? local1.info synchronet: evnt BINKOUT JSBinkP/4 callout to   
    > 12:1/1@dovenet started   
    > Jun 02 15:42:51 ? local1.info synchronet: evnt BINKOUT Connecting to   
    > 12:1/1@dovenet at clrghouz.bbs.dege.au:24554   
    > Jun 02 15:43:00 ? local1.info synchronet: evnt BINKOUT Will encrypt session.   
    > Jun 02 15:43:00 ? local1.info synchronet: evnt BINKOUT Authentication   
    > successful: secure   
    > Jun 02 15:43:28 ? local1.err synchronet: evnt BINKOUT Error 11 opening FLO   
    > file: /opt/sbbs/fido/outbound.00c/00010001.dlo   
    > Jun 02 15:43:31 ? local1.info synchronet: evnt BINKOUT Timed event:   
    > '?binkit' returned 0   
    >   
    > I just rebuilt sbbs today, as my last build was about a month or two old -   
    > still the same.   
    >   
    > Why the error 11, and what would cause the file to disappear?   
      
   /usr/include/asm-generic/errno-base.h:#define   EAGAIN          11      /* Try   
   again */   
      
   I'm guessing that means the file was opened for exclusive access or the file   
   system was doing something with the file. It's not saying the file "is gone".   
      
    > If I create the .?lo manually, and send it interactively with jsexec binkit   
    > -l ... , the file doesnt disappear (until the mail is sent), and the mail   
    > gets transfered correctly.   
    >   
    > I think this is related to me switching to aarch64. I'm using the same   
    > config, and the same build process as I have always used.   
      
   It sounds like BinkIt should peform an open-retry when getting that specific   
   open error. Submit an issue at gitlab.synchro.net for someone to follow-up on   
   this?   
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