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   Message 69 of 538   
   Ardith Hinton to Richard Webb   
   Disability Services   
   04 Apr 11 22:26:30   
   
   Hi, Richard!  Awhile ago you wrote in a message to Ardith Hinton:   
      
   RW>  HE admitted to me he didn't even think about some of those   
   RW>  ramifications at first.  HIS main concern was getting music   
   RW>  to me with enough lead time that I could get it in braille.   
   RW>  I think he also spoke with the band director at the school   
   RW>  for the blind, and understood that I'd work out the tools I   
   RW>  needed to perform competently.   
      
      
              I get the impression he was basically on the right track, but found   
   his own learning curve rather steep at times.  When our daughter was about two   
   years old I noticed that she was devising some good educational strategies for   
   herself in many areas.  She still needed help in certain areas, of course, and   
   so did I.  But in general I'm inclined to agree with the teacher at the school   
   for the blind in that a bright & articulate student such as you would probably   
   have more understanding of what works for him than others would by the time he   
   reached junior high.  One of the problems Dallas & I have often encountered as   
   parents is (as Nora puts it) "I try to tell them, but they don't listen".  :-(   
      
      
      
   RW>  often in these days when inclusion is the norm the systems   
   RW>  are set up to be inflexible, and therefore don't force the   
   RW>  student to think about his or her own needs and therefore   
   RW>  develop the tools to independently get the work done.   
      
      
              Give a man a fish, and he will have food for a day... teach him how   
   to fish, and he will have food for a lifetime (Chinese proverb).  As a teacher   
   my inclination is to make people think, but not everybody appreciates that!  I   
   had students who pleaded for stuff they could copy, memorize, and regurgitate.   
   Knowing what I know now I recognize this learning style as the preferred style   
   of about 40% of the general population.  The percentage among bureacrats is, I   
   suspect, even higher.  Regarding "the system" one also has to contend with the   
   bean counters whose idea of efficiency is hiring whoever will work for minimal   
   pay doing things to or for a client, where some folks might eventually be able   
   to do these things for themselves with a larger investment up front... (sigh).   
      
      
      
   RW>  Ask many blind college students, and they'll tell you that the   
   RW>  disability services office on campus is both bane and boon.   
      
      
              I could say the same of many services here... (wry grin).   
      
      
      
   RW>  YOu'd be surprised the number of blind college grads that do   
   RW>  not have effective techniques for hiring training supervising,   
   RW>  and paying readers.   
      
      
              Nah.  It takes more than that to surprise me....  :-))   
      
              Trying to synthesize what I know (or think I know) with what you've   
   said about readers, however... the library at UBC uses volunteers to record at   
   least some material.  In this case different chapters of a book are often read   
   by different people who are probably not identified by name.  Thus the student   
   can't say to person xxx "I like your style... will you work for me privately?"   
   as we did with a few of Nora's therapists.  And in my experience a person with   
   special needs generally doesn't have all of them met by one organization.  :-)   
      
      
      
   RW>  Even if rehab or somebody else picks up the tab good   
   RW>  programs put the power to hire fire and train, as well   
   RW>  as the responsibility for submitting vouchers and other   
   RW>  requisite paperwork to get the reader paid directly on   
   RW>  the user of the reader.   
      
      
              Dallas & I managed to find a few good programs and obtain help with   
   certain expenses.  In general, however, we had to do our own research WRT such   
   matters... and we tolerate the endless paperwork in order to get the most bang   
   for the buck.  We have the power to hire & fire & train our own employees now,   
   but we are older & more experienced than the average university student.  It's   
   important to remember also that many people (regardless of age) prefer to have   
   others take care of all the arrangements and/or tell them what they should do.   
   If you're not like that it may be more difficult to get what you want....  ;-)   
      
      
      
   RW>  MOre later, I have to run a network on the ham radio   
   RW>  later this morning so better organize myself .   
      
      
              And in view of what's been going on in Japan & various other places   
   I'm completely supportive of what you're doing!  First we have to survive on a   
   physical level, then we can afford to ruminate on what makes people tick.  :-)   
      
      
      
      
   --- timEd/386 1.10.y2k+   
    * Origin: Wits' End, Vancouver CANADA (1:153/716)   

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