DS> MH>Has any of your doctors ever linked your IBS to the kidney stones?  My   
   DS>   >thinking is that if there is more liquid being released in the bowe,   
   DS> it cuts   
   DS>   >down on the liquid in the kidneys and could increase the changes for   
   DS> stones.   
   DS>    
   DS>   No, but that's something I'll have to ask the urologist later this   
   DS> month   
   DS> when I go in for the IVP.   
      
   I'd be interested to know what they end up saying.  The lack of water in the   
   system can certainly raise the chances of a stone for many people.  Getting   
   the IBS under control might be the key.     
      
   Have you tried various probiotics?  Avoiding trouble foods, etc?   
      
   DS>   Three of the main symptoms of kidney stones are blood in the urine,   
   DS> extreme pain, and vomiting. Once I start, I can't stop...and have to go   
   DS> to   
   DS> the ER.   
      
   Yes, even though it was 13 years ago, I remember those symptoms very well.  I   
   had to take two ER trips while I was dealing with the stone I had back then.   
                                                                           
   DS>   I can't handle regular water...it's too bland, and it upsets my   
   DS> digestive   
   DS> tract. With the IBS and extra water, I get severe diarrhea, which leads   
   DS> to   
   DS> dehydration...then severe rectal bleeding from the hemorrhoids, which   
   DS> leads   
   DS> to anemia. However, I can handle either the flavored water (for clear   
   DS> liquids), but the urologist recommended Gatorade. I can drink 3 liters of   
   DS> that a day...my favorite is the grape flavor...it reminds me of the   
   DS> "punch"   
   DS> I used to drink in school over 45 years ago (yeah, I'm dating myself now   
   DS> ).   
      
   Finding what you can handle is key, and I would think with time would help   
   your overall health.  I did lots of studying of IBS years ago after my kidney   
   stone and it took me several years to eventually get rid of that problem.     
      
   In my case, it was related to taking too many Cipro while dealing with a UTI   
   from the kidney stone.     
      
   DS>   It is hereditary...my late father, my brother, my uncle, and my cousin   
   DS> (that I know of) all have had them. It is the closest thing a man can get   
   DS> to   
   DS> the pain of childbirth.   
      
   Yes, I agree.  My Dad had two of them - and apparently passed that probem to   
   me.  The main thing I have changed is drinking more water, every day.  It has   
   been working.   
      
   DS>   I know a young lady, who with both of her pregnancies, she also had   
   DS> kidney   
   DS> stones...as if the pain of labor wasn't enough!!   
      
   That is really horrible..  I can't imagine..   
      
   - Mark   
      
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