Ardith Hinton to James Bradley on 06-21-11 14:42 re: Secret part of the BBS   
      
    JB> I *still* need to swap fridges here, but I lost my keys   
    JB> while trying to affect that. Now I have something *else*   
    JB> to fret about.    
      
    AH> Hmm. In that regard, your loss is our gain.... :-Q   
      
   NOT!!! I still need to find my keys!    
      
    JB> I'm sure I mentioned a *long* time ago - but I'll repeat   
    JB> myself for the benefit of those who don't know how nutty   
    JB> I can be -   
      
    AH> And for those who know how nutty you can be, but may have   
    AH> forgotten or failed to grasp the technical details. Works for me...   
    AH> [chuckle].   
      
   Ya... Let me remind you to my "depth".    
      
    JB> I had a gratis dial-up I-net account for about thirteen   
    JB> years.   
      
    AH> I thought you were using the public library but had some   
    AH> difficulty getting there... perhaps I drew a false analogy with Wayne   
    AH> from another echo.   
      
   That's what I did too after my favor-for-a-favor time ran out in 2003. I was   
   using a United Way sponsored setup in favor to the library (lack of) setup. I   
   would go to the library if my stack of things-to-do extended past closing time   
   to my preferred place. My aunt who had just retired as a librarian asked me,   
   "What IT department?" (Yup... In rhetoric! ;-) when I was asking some simple   
   questions about how that department was run, so I trusted them even *less* than   
   I did until then.   
      
    JB> Most of that time was spent *trying* to keep Windows   
    JB> secure and up to date. Now that I can plug a router   
    JB> between me and that "nastyness", and use *only* Linux   
    JB> for my online chores, I feel MUCH more secure spending   
    JB> all my money on eBay. O-8*   
      
      
    AH> While I'm not a techie, I understand your unhappiness with   
    AH> Windows. From where I sit it appears that Linux is probably quite safe   
    AH> if only because so few people understand it. Same goes for Fidonet   
    AH> nowadays... anybody who's interested in finding out more about me has   
    AH> to know where & how to look. :-)   
      
   Like I told an x-fighter jockey for the RCAF, "Take an internal modem and   
   network interface card to your corner store to ask the first ten people you   
   meet to identify each. THEN, I will allow you profess your ignorance *if* you   
   get 10/10 correct answers."   
      
   Linux *is* less secure today for exactly the reason you site, but it is *so*   
   much harder to break into, and FAR less damage can be done once there. It's not   
   impossible to get "nasty", just SO much more work for the malcontents for so   
   little "gain".    
      
      
   ...   
    JB> You KNOW I was asking in rhetoric, right?    
      
      
    AH> A rhetorical question is asked for effect, not for   
    AH> information, and doesn't require an answer. I think you knew the   
    AH> answer already. But for the benefit of newcomers who might not be so   
    AH> clear on the concept, I explained it again in a somewhat different way.   
      
   Oh... I forgot there were people that read and follow "rules".    
      
    AH> You've been here longer than anybody else except for Dallas & me...   
    AH> and you understand what we're trying to accomplish. If others are   
    AH> team-teaching effectively he doesn't need the big hammer. :-))   
      
   As a blanket apology, I know how I was raised to push boundaries. Ignoring my   
   recent typo, (Back to the old keyboard excuse AGAIN! I purchased a laptop with   
   a busted lid hinge bracket for $70, and it's a "Breath on it just right, and   
   it'll write for you" model. Now that I'm on my fido machine again, I have to   
   *pound* the keys to attempt to get to my point.) I pray I was never too far   
   from the "spirit" of the community you two built here, and if I was, I trust I   
   wasn't too hard to lead back to enlightenment? My words to Shilo stand if so. I   
   didn't notice Dallas wielding a big stick, and if he did, I barely noticed the   
   gentle tap he administered to smarten me up.   
      
   I used to read echo rules diligently, until I formed my code of conduct that I   
   thought should be "acceptable". I talk in fido how I like to talk to the   
   neighbours across our fence, and how I'd like to be talked to. "Don't be   
   offensive, OR easily offended..." and all that good stuff. To quote Bonnie   
   Rait, "I aint no porcupine. Take off your kid-gloves." should be my tagline   
   too. I know I can be gruff and crass at times and I need to be more sensitive   
   to others, but I *think* of myself as the guy too willing to lend my neighbour   
   my garden hose if his house is on fire, but I'm not above giving him a hard   
   time about it if it comes back all kinked up.    
      
      
    AH> Steve isn't a kid... he's been posting in various Fidonet   
      
   ... And I need to work on my "Oh ya?" attitude.    
      
    AH> echoes for quite awhile. Shiloh is about the age you were when you   
    AH> started posting here. I'm not sure about Nathan, but I reckon your   
    AH> guess is as good as mine.... ;-)   
      
   I hope I don't scare them away with my bombastic attitude. Yes, I've shared   
   laughs with Atheists and Agnostics as easily as Pastors, so I hope Steve is   
   able to "consider the source" when he first read my words. For the record, I   
   did today bark at my neighbour with levity about his grumpy nature, so I hope   
   your new readers here can feel half as welcomed as you two have made me.    
      
    JB> about slipping under the radar *alone* would make his   
    JB> hair stand on end WITHOUT "product".    
      
    AH> I imagine you & I could both go on at length about that.   
    AH> Meanwhile, give yourself a gold star for making me laugh! I really   
    AH> enjoy your tongue-in- cheek allusions to the whims of fashion & to the   
    AH> jargon of advertising. :-)))   
      
   Dad was a GREAT assessor of popular culture and intra-personal relations. I'm   
   just as pleased as a pickle when I find someone who "gets" the smidgen of his   
   humour I was able to adorn. Oh... Give Dallas a Happy belated Fathers Day for   
   me. My Vancouver sister and I just exchanged a volley of HILARIOUS reminiscent   
   emails about Dad and our upbringing in his honor. He had some bad traits, but   
   MANY more good. Knowing what I know about you, I'm secure in calling your   
   husband a "keeper".   
      
   I should toss you her contact info, if I remember to mention you to her in   
   August. My Calgary sister is being wed then, and I'll wager a drunken barn   
   dance will break out so I might have to write it down before I remember to do   
   so.   
      
    JB> Oh, *so* glad to find the time to garner your thoughts   
    JB> again! rocker" for laughing so hard!>   
      
      
    AH> Oops. Is my NT (preferred reasoning style) showing again??   
    AH> Anyway, I'm glad you're glad! As for the neighbours... I guess you   
    AH> could say "You had to be there." But I doubt you're overly concerned   
    AH> about what they think. :-)   
      
   Oh, if they had no grounds for their suspicion before this week, they were   
   blind to the notion. Despite my best efforts, my worst psych evaluation   
   remains "Perhaps mildly paranoid." And that was after I BEGGED for their full   
   treatment and before they sent me home to "convalesce".    
      
   For the record - and in the interim from my last post - I *did* have to check   
   my anger when discussing my medical complications to a person who was   
   expressing nothing but compassion towards me. In my defence it took me MANY   
   requests for her to stop before I turned immature in order to change the topic.   
   So, even after twenty-years almost to the date, I *do* have to realize how   
   tender my fragility is, but take heart others here. I'm learning that I have   
   PLENTY left to learn about the muck we are all in.   
      
      
   For Shilo (I don't recall seeing the other name you mentioned, but I missed   
   reading a lot of the posts I downloaded.) and even the Godless Steve, (I have   
   your new nickname, Steve. I hope you have thick enough skin?) I suffer from an   
   iatrogenic fibroid neuroma. Once we settle back into our chairs behind a warm   
   cup of tea and fuzzy slippers, I have no problems going through the details,   
   but I trust we can have mutual respect for our emotions if things become   
   "sensitive"?    
      
      
      
   ... Don't be silly. We can't have everybody living happily ever   
   after.-Horton,E.   
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