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From: Hector Santos
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Subject: Re: [WINServer] HTML Who is Online
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Ok, just keep in mind that the template for whos_online will be
updated, so you that don't need to edit it. In fact, I just
remembered this:
If you create the optional custom template file:
http\template\who-options.wct
This allows you to override the who_onlines.htm template options.
who_onlines.htm checks for this optional file with this command:
@ExistInclude "wc:\http\template\who-options.wct"@
So create this file and add the set who.vdg macro;
@set Who.VDG=0@
This allows you to continue using the stock whos_online.htm template.
I recommend ou should delete it now from the custom folder and create
the who-options.wct instead. Then you will be upgrade ready.
Thanks
On 11/24/2018 11:42 PM, Terry Roati wrote:
> Hello Hector,
>
> Spot on the money as usual, as you suggested I turned VDG off using @SET
WHO.VDG = 0@ and it solved my issue.
>
> I only have the one domain so can't help you testing with more domains.
>
> I understand your logic to be able to control what each domain can see which
makes sense for a business.
>
> I was surprised no one else picked this up. It was only because I am in the
process of rebuilding my BBS and testing the setup I came across it.
>
> Thanks to all.
>
> Terry Roati
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: listadmin-winserver@winserver.com
On Behalf Of Hector Santos
> Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 1:23 PM
> To: WINServer@winserver.com
> Subject: Re: [WINServer] HTML Who is Online
>
> Yes, HTML-WHO.WCX is built in. So if you have a standalone HTML-WHO.WCX, you
might want to delete it unless you have something customized.
>
> Ok, checking this out, it appears to be an issue related to Virtual Domain
Groups (VDG) and the access profiles. I was able to repeat the problem and to
make a long story short, you have to make sure the domain the user used in the
URL is in the VDG listing and not rely on the default host name which may not
be the same.
>
> For example, on my home machine, I have "home.winserver.com" domain, but in
my VDG setup I havethe computer name "HDEV21" setup as the default domain. I
don't have "Home.winserver.com" in the table/.
>
> What that means is this, when the user uses the domain home.winserver.com in
the URL for the browser, WcWEB will lookup home.winserver.com in your VDG table
to get the access data. If the domain is not listed, it will use the one
marked as the default. For me, that was HDEV21 and the access profiles was set
to allow "New User" so it should of worked. But the template was skipping the
node display because it was using the new "WHO.VDG" template variables that
regulates how the virtual domains are displayed in Who's Online.
>
> In the WHOS_ONLINE.HTM, template, it has these options:
>
>
>
> @set Who.VDG = 1@ @//@ set 1 to enable vdg support
> @set Who.VDG.Column = 0@ @//@ set 1 to show column
> @set Who.VDG.Filter = 1@ @//@ set 0 - show all, 1 - current, 2
> - user, 3 - accessible
>
> This is complex and I have to remember my design details, but the idea was to
give you control over what the user the can see. Overall, for the "normal"
user, you don't want home to see who's online for other
> domains. So the ideas were:
>
> 0 Show all user nodes, master sysop, administrator, etc.
> 1 Show nodes only with the same current domain of the user
> 2 Show only the user node (private idea)
> 3 Show the domains the user has access too.
>
> Again, I'm on complexity design recall, but doing some debugging, with the
Who.VDG.Filter=1, the user's current domain was blank so it didn't show the
nodes. I have to see why it was blank but it appears it is because, I didn't
have a "home.winserver.com" VDG domain.
>
> To prove that this was the problem, I removed the home.winserver.com from VDG
and then use the url http://hdev21 and it worked.
>
> So its related to the VDG and somehow the default is not set in the
connection node records.
>
> Your solution for now is:
>
> 1) Make sure the URL domain is also in the VDG table, make sure the access
profiles are set.
>
> and/or you can play with the template:
>
> 2) Put a copy of WHOS_ONLINE.HTM into the http\template\custom folder, and
edit it. Play with the WHO.VDG option, set it to 0.
>
> @SET WHO.VDG = 0@
>
> and see what happens. It will be interesting if you have many virtual domains
to see how it will display.
>
> Keep in mind that this appears to be minor bug with the default domain not
being set in the TConnectionInfo record for the node. Penciled in for review,
but you have a solution by setting the URL domain in the VDG.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 11/24/2018 8:06 PM, robert.wolfe@robertwolfe.org wrote:
>> Actually, I believe the web interface calls html-who.wcx which I
>> believe in built into the WILDCAT.WCL archive. Hector, please
>> correct me if I am wrong and set the record straight.
>>
>> *From:* listadmin-winserver@winserver.com
>> *On Behalf Of *Terry Roati
>> *Sent:* Saturday, November 24, 2018 6:42 PM
>> *To:* WINServer@winserver.com
>> *Subject:* RE: [WINServer] HTML Who is Online
>>
>> I am using http (built in web interfaces of WINS) and have checked the
>> access levels for WCX and Clients which are all ok. It is only
>> Who’s Online with a issue, Files,
Messages, Chat and Properties
>> etc are ok.
>>
>> I checked and I am not using any WCX for
Who’s Online HTML.
>>
>> *From:* listadmin-winserver@winserver.com
>>
>> > > *On Behalf Of
>> *robert.wolfe@robertwolfe.org
>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 25, 2018 6:09 AM
>> *To:* WINServer@winserver.com
>> *Subject:* RE: [WINServer] HTML Who is Online
>>
>> Technically, for the web interface, I believe you ARE using a WCX for
>> the web clients (files, messages, who is online, etc). But, I may be
>> wrong.
>>
>> *From:* listadmin-winserver@winserver.com
>>
>> > > *On Behalf Of *Terry Roati
>> *Sent:* Saturday, November 24, 2018 2:14 AM
>> *To:* WINServer@winserver.com
>> *Subject:* [WINServer] HTML Who is Online
>>
>> Hello Hector,
>>
>> I am not using any WCX.
>>
>> When I log in as Sysop it is ok.
>>
>> When I log in as a Regular user, it
doesnâ€â„Ã
ƒâ€šÃ‚¢t show a user.
>>
>> Just to let you know that when I tried to compile html-who.wcc it has
>> errors.
>>
>>
>
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