XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sci.physics.relativity, sci.math
From: wthyde1953@gmail.com

Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am Montag000014, 14.07.2025 um 06:23 schrieb Gronk:
>
>>>>>>>> Allied armies were everywhere in occupied Germany. Not just
>>>>>>>> scholarly consensus but the plain evidence of our own eyes
>>>>>>>> proved Germany had no functionning reactors, no enrichment, and
>>>>>>>> no bombs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> sure, they had no atomic bombs after the American searched for them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They *never* had any atomic bombs. They never developed one, you
>>>>>> fucking Lügner.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps they have some in total secret. They might of purchased one
>>>>> or two from North Korea? Just a thought. Sigh.
>>>>
>>>> The Lügner Thomas Heger is saying that Nazi Germany developed an
>>>> atomic bomb. It's a lie. They did not.
>>>
>>> There have been many rumors about Nazi Germany, that the Nazis have
>>> actually built atomic bombs.
>>>
>>> But, I don't know, since I have not seen nothing, because I have not
>>> been born then.
>>
>> That's what history and historians are for.
>>
>
> Historians are usually liers and were paid by Churchill, because
> Churchill said, that history was written by the victors (only).


The phrase "History is written by the victors" predates Churchill's
birth by decades.

Churchill is quoted as saying it in a movie, which apparently is seen as
a reliable source by some. To reject historians as a source and accept
movies which are avowedly fictional is well into crackpot territory.

Indeed it was Goring who said:

“Der Sieger wird immer der Richter und der Besiegte stets der Angeklagte
sein,”

Only after he lost, though.

Churchill did frequently joke that judgement should be left to history,
"particularly as I intend to write that history myself", a reference to
his extensive output as a writer.

But in the introduction of his volumes on the second world war, he
points out that this work is more a sourcebook for history than history
itself, as it is written by a participant not long after the events.
New evidence, he says, will come out and historians will be writing
about this for a long time.

No serious historian accepts Churchill's writings on WWII as the last word.
>
> So, British 'history' was actually propaganda (in WWII).

There was naturally plenty of propaganda in the war. But the main
history is now clear enough, even though there are many questions yet to
be definitively answered.

William Hyde

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