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|  The Starmaker to The Starmaker  |
|  Re: Most of physics fields are dead. Pro  |
|  10 Oct 24 08:20:39  |
 [continued from previous message] > > can’t they? One big difference is Dirac doubted his result and was > > reluctant to discuss it until Carl Anderson showed the existence of the > > positron in his cloud chamber experiments in 1932. > > > > So we had a theoretical physicist being humble about a prediction until > > an experimental result demonstrated the existence of one particle that > > was consistent with the theory. Today we have theoreticians boldly > > claiming their mathematical proofs say something about reality and > > telling the experimentalists to hurry up and spend billions to show the > > world that they are right. > > > > *********************************************** > > > > Thank you for your rant....it's very much needed. I'm a retired, > > blue-collar physicist. By that I mean, I was an experimentalist working > > in, for that realm, high energy ion-molecule collisions; a field far > > from the so-called "frontier" of quantum gravity. Nonetheless, I've > > watched our beloved field fall into the irrelevancy that you point out. > > It started with fusion, and now has moved into high energy and quantum > > theory. I blame the money....stop funding this increasingly silly > > research and maybe we can get back to reality. The good news is that > > this period of stagnation may find someone who can break through to a > > new paradigm. Probably after I die. > > > > ********************************************** > > > > Business schools repeat stuff they know is wrong because it's what > > business wants their employees to practice. It boils down to 2 words > > "money corrupts." > > > > ********************************************* > > > > You are absolutely right. Physics used to be about explanations of > > observations. And when new observation invalidated the explanations, new > > explanations were developed to factor in the new observations. > > Once particle physics got under way the game flipped around: theories > > were developed abstractly and then observations sought to validate the > > theories. The Hicks Boson was an observation that came along after the > > theory to validate it, so this entirely abstract new discipline, > > strangely still called physics, worked in this single instance. I > > remember being surprised and impressed. But many more of these abstract > > theories have been developed and no doubt some will never achieve > > validating observations. > > > > ********************************************** > > > > In the interest of fairness, there was a time in physics where theorists > > were predicting the existence of particles before they were discovered > > in the particle accelerator. It was a small parenthesis in the history > > of science. The issue is that a whole generation of physicists got > > convinced this is how science was done, and in my humble opinion is how > > we ended up in this situation where theories don't require being > > falsifiable.... > > > > ******************************************** > > > > This is what mostly disillusioned me with physics academia. We spend > > endless time and effort going down math's rabbit holes, with zero > > insight of what it actually means in terms of physics. Practically all > > the great breakthroughs in Physics have come from realizations about the > > physics, and we have then built a math's framework around that. But in > > my experience, universities are so focused on pure mathematics. I saw so > > many brilliant people that had great insights into the physics just > > getting worn down and forced out, while people with no clue how the > > physics worked were elevated because they could just memorize standard > > problems. > > > > ****************************************** > > > > A very good video that gets to the heart of the problem. I did my PhD in > > theoretical particle physics in 2004 and then left science for exactly > > those reasons. I looked at a theoretical small part that probably had > > nothing to do with reality, while people added more dimensions and > > particles to the theory or screamed for a larger LHC, which should prove > > it. Even Sheldon Cooper in TBBT quit String Theory 🙂 > > don't to forget to add engineering is dead...those exploding rockets > sent to space are > designed by (cough) highly qualified engineers. > > (i also notice there are more women in college than men in engeineering > classes nowadays, God help us all!) So, why is it these rockets sent keep exploding???? I say, 'very confident highly qualified' people with wrong information. You cna see their confidence even when they are wrong. These people lack complete information. And they are confident with very little information that their information is...complete. And then, they send up the rocket...and a teacher is dead. A teacher who BELIEVED those 'very confident highly qualified' people are right and trusts them. Notice how confident CHATGPT sounds even when it's wrong? It's programmed to be confident wrong. And when the rocket explodes...the 'very confident highly qualified' people say "I knew it." "Dumb teacher fell for us." "Get in teacher, the rocket is safe!" What are the odds? oh fuck it, you're gonna die. We got stupid people working for us. very highly qualified stupid people. "Hey kid, what do you wanna be when you grow up?" "AN ASTRONUT!!!!" stupid kid. How come we haven't got back to the moon? Any teachers wanna go?? It's safe. what are you worry about. get your fat ass in there! HELP! They are simply..very confident highly qualified ...MURDERERS. Albert Einstein wrote a letter to his son...September 2, 1945 "My scientific work has only 'a very indirect connection' with the atomic bomb." Ants...when they crawl on the ground zig zag on their way... > > -- > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, > and challenge the unchallengeable. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable. --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05 * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2) |
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