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|  Michael Ejercito to HeartDoc Andrew  |
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|  09 Dec 25 17:02:55  |
 [continued from previous message] >> One former member recalled how, after a positive start, the group’s role >> “fell off a cliff”, saying: “It became clear that the government didn’t >> want to listen to advice. It was frustrating, deeply frustrating. >> “We tried hard to say ‘we have been mandated to do this work, and yet we >> are not being allowed to do it. We are coming across obstacles, left >> right and centre’. It just felt that we had been sidelined and, even >> though we were built into the structure, we were circumvented.” >> During autumn 2020, MEAG discussed the adult Covid vaccine programme and >> stated that “honest and clear information” should be provided to allow >> the public to “make an informed choice” about the jabs. It also said the >> government should be “realistic about alternatives” to the vaccine. >> Two weeks later, it was told its terms of reference were being >> “refreshed” to make clear that it should be a “constructive sounding >> board” for ministers. Rather than its earlier proactive approach, it >> should now focus on being “responsive”. >> Sir Chris meets Boris Johnson and his Covid top team at No 10 Downing >> Street during the pandemic >> Sir Chris meets Boris Johnson and his Covid top team at No 10 Downing >> Street during the pandemic >> In December 2020, MEAG members expressed grave misgivings about a >> proposed rollout of vaccine passports – a policy that would result in >> people being barred from pubs, cafes and restaurants if they failed to >> prove their vaccine status. >> There were “serious concerns” about human rights implications, with >> members questioning the motivation for introducing the passports. They >> raised concerns that the passports could be used by the Government and >> possibly employers to “semi-coerce people into having the vaccine”. >> Minutes from the next meeting, in January 2021, showed that Sir Chris >> advised the group to stop putting its recommendations in writing. >> While England’s chief medical officer “valued the presence of the MEAG >> and the ability to understand complexities” he “counselled against >> producing documentation that offered recommendations, given the >> political aspect of decision-making”. >> Prof Sir Jonathan Montgomery, the co-chairman of MEAG, submitted two >> witness statements to the Covid inquiry, both of which also referred to >> Sir Chris advising the group against putting its recommendations in writing. >> He recalled a meeting at which Sir Chris told him that “producing >> documentation that offered recommendations might not be helpful, given >> the political as well as ethical aspects of decision-making”. >> Sources close to Sir Chris said this was a misunderstanding and that he >> meant to explain that MEAG was an advisory group, meaning it was not >> appropriate for it to put recommendations in writing. >> 'Serious concerns' were raised about the human rights implications of >> some Covid policies >> ‘Serious concerns’ were raised about the human rights implications of >> some Covid policies Credit: Oli Scarff/AFP via Getty Images >> Some former MEAG members defended Sir Chris’s role, saying he was a >> civil servant acting on the orders of ministers. >> “He was acting as a conduit for those in government,” said one. “He was >> supportive of the work we were doing and could understand why it was >> important to have these discussions – but not the ministers. >> “He is not a political person, he is a civil servant. ‘Political’ is >> really a shorthand for saying ‘the government think you are a thorn in >> their side’.” >> Either way, this appeared to be something of a turning point for MEAG, >> after which the number of its meetings dwindled. There were no meetings >> recorded between April and September 2021, despite the fact that the >> children’s vaccine rollout was being debated and was regarded as one of >> the most ethically contentious decisions of the pandemic. >> The Telegraph has learnt that a meeting had been scheduled to take place >> on June16 2021 to discuss the matter. But the meeting was cancelled at >> the last minute by Department of Health officials – who cited >> “unexpected media coverage” – and was never rescheduled. >> Before it, a memo, seen by The Telegraph, had been circulated among >> members, warning of ethical and legal concerns around proceeding with a >> vaccine rollout for healthy children. >> The memo warned that “urgent” consideration must be given to the ethical >> and legal issues relating to rolling out a new vaccine for healthy >> children. It said vaccines were “invasive, irreversible and may have >> long-term side effects, as yet undefined”. >> ragout-top >> Vaccination of Children and Young People against SARS-COV-2: legal and >> ethical implications >> The vaccination of children and young people raises ethical and legal >> questions not met in adult vaccination. The extraordinary pace of the >> adult programme means that these issues now require urgent consideration. >> Vaccination saves lives but is invasive, irreversible and may have >> long-term side effects, as yet unidentified. >> The precautionary principle has been applied to date, with an existing >> recommendation that only children with severe neurodisabilities, where >> there is clear evidence that potential benefits outweigh potential >> risks, should be vaccinated below the age of 16 years. >> Mortality/morbidity in children and young people are very low in >> comparison to adults. The goals of mortality/morbidity reduction by >> individual vaccine protection are, consequently, less applicable. >> An ethical assessment of collective immunisation programmes would >> highlight safety and efficacy of both vaccine and programme, >> minimisation of burdens and benefits, a just distribution of burdens and >> benefits, voluntary valid consent where possible, and protection of >> public trust. >> The main questions are:- >> What are the goals of vaccinating children/ young people? >> What are the benefits and harms to individual children/ young people? >> Are there any practical alternatives to vaccinating this age group? >> Specific Issues >> Legal issues: Although not technically within the jurisdiction of MEAG >> or JCVI, these are worth noting as an indication of the degree to which >> ethical principles have been given institutional recognition. The >> relevant law in England and Wales is based on the Children Act 1989, >> which affirms a position adopted in previous statutes and judgements >> since the late 19th century, namely that the welfare of the child is >> paramount in all matters concerning children (s1, 1). The law in >> Scotland and Northern Ireland is similar. The UK has also ratified the >> UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, which specifies the best >> interests of the child as the primary consideration. This has been >> incorporated into domestic law by the Welsh Government and the Scottish >> Government is proposing a similar move. The Children Act (s.1, 5) also >> establishes the principle of the ‘least restrictive alternative’, that >> an intervention should only take place if it is clearly better than no >> intervention. >> UK family law is very different from that in the US, where vaccines for >> children are being deployed. 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