From: YourName@YourISP.com

In article , Cyber kNight
 wrote:
> Your Name wrote on Wed, 01 October 2014 17:08
> >>
> >>  Someone else taking over the helm of Star Wars was
inevitable. George
> >>  Lucas
> >>  won't live forever.
>
> >The Star Wars franchise (as well as the other Lucasfilm franchise like
> >Indiana Jones) should have been given over, under watertight legal red
> >tape, to the stewardship of Rick McCallum and others already within the
> >Lucasfilm franchise.
>
> Given? In what kind of dream world does this happen?

Given in the sense of under their charge, but owned entirely by the
Lucasfilm company and not by any individual or group of people.



> Having
said that, LucasFilm still exists (although owned by Disney)
and
> many of the people that were working there before Disney
are still working
> there now (although not Rick McCallum). Others who have been involved in
> past Star Wars films (e.g. Lawrence Kasdan who co-wrote Empire Strikes
> Back, Return of the Jedi and Raiders of the Lost Ark) are also involved in
> the new films. It's not like there is no continuity.

Continuity or lack of it remains to be seen, but will almost certainly
become a problem as more and more people are introduced to try and
insert their own ideas into the franchise. In fact, Disney has already
thrown out all previous non-movie material (some for the better) and
started they own line of continuity.




> >>  This fact by itself doesn't mean the Star Wars franchise will get better
> >>  or worse. That remains to be seen. But from the position of a fan, even
if
> >>  mediocre Star Wars movies get released on a regular basis this is better
> >>  than none for the rest of my life
>
> >*Only* if those movies, novels, etc. actually fit with the established
> >franchise. Some new moron(s) going off making huge changes to suit
> >themselves is not wanted by any real fan of any franchise. Such things
> >simply create a complete mess of the franchise.
> >
> >JJ Abrams claims to be a fan of Star Wars, and yet in other franchises
> >we have already seen so-called "fans" produce ill-fitting rubbish full
> >of their own silly ideas of what that franchise "should be" rather than
> >sticking to what the franchise actually is.
>
> So why assume the worst?

Because past experience of Hollyweird has shown that the worst is what
happens. Thanks to the "reboot" fad infesting Hollyweird, many
franchises have already been butchered into a confused mess by some new
fool who believed they knew better than the creator what the franchise
"should have been".




> >>  which is what we likely would have got from George Lucas.
> >
> >Apparently that is wrong since George Lucas was reportedly already
> >working on a sequel Trilogy before he sold out to Disney.
> >
> >No Star Wars ever again is much better than ill-fitting rubbish that
> >confuses and destroys the franchise.
>
> And George Lucas is also reportedly collaborating on the new films.

No. George Lucas is an honorary adisor. He has absolutely no legal say
in what can and cannot happen - that is now the decision of JJ Abrams,
and Disney and Lucasfilm management.



> Again, why assume the new movies will be 'ill-fitting rubbish'?

Again, Hollywierd's past performance in many other franchises.



> The prequel trilogy was mediocre at best when compared with the original,
> regardless of how well it 'fit in'.

The quality is irrelevent to the point. "Quality" is an opinion and as
such everybody has a different one.

Conintuity and fitting into the existing franchise are facts, and it is
that continuity that makes a successful franchise. That continuity is
not just the general in-universe facts, but also includes such things
as the style of the movies..

A new movie which is a musical (for example) would be ill-fitting to
the franchise, no matter how "good" or "bad" it is in anybody's
individual opinions. There are many now-adult fans who want a "grown up
Star Wars", which is also out of context and ill-fitting with the Star
Wars franchise which is and has always been aimed mainly at young boys
aged approximately 7-15.



> Abrams doesn't have to do much to improve on that.

Again, "improving" is an opinion and not relevent to the point.



> These movies aren't a 'reboot' like the Trek movies and at this point I
> don't think we have any reason to believe they won't 'fit' with the
> established (movie) franchise. What other franchises are you referring to?

Lucasfilm owns many franchises, the two biggest of course being Star
Wars and Indiana Jones.

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