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From: exquisitepeach@hotmail.com

C'Pi wrote:

> peachy ashie passion wrote:
>
>>C'Pi wrote:
>>
>>
>>>peachy ashie passion wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>C'Pi wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>peachy ashie passion wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>C'Pi wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Sorry.  You can keep snarking rudely, but you got to promise
>>>>>>>you'll giggle every once in awhile.  It helps me know you're
>>>>>>>human. C'Pi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I wouldn't want to lie to you that way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>*sigh*  Why oh why do I always have the soft spot for assholes?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Must.........control.............typing.....
>>>>>
>>>>>C'Pi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    oh, nicely done.  You had self restraint there.
>>>
>>>
>>>Question, Peachy.  How come you give Merrick a free pass for
>>>slurring old people for having a smell he doesn't like?  Is it
>>>because you know him better?
>>>
>>>C'Pi
>>>
>>>
>>
>>   Nope.  I never met either one of you before this thread.
>>
>>  I expect it is because the ubiquitous nature of the gay slur, it's
>>left me oversensitized to it.
>
>
> Precisely the point.  Being oversensitive to the word, you may take any use
> of the word as being negative.  If in my case I was using it in a negative
> way you would have been able to point to some word or phrase that I used
> that established a negative context for the supposed slur.  Something like
> in Gman's comments in the 80's tv Pilot thread where he established that he
> didn't like a certain kind of music, which made his "greengay" comment a
> slur.  Or in the case of Merrick where he says "As long as you don't
> smell...it'll be all right" creating a negative context for the smell.  So
> far you haven't been able to provide any context from what I said for the
> word having been used as a slur.  In the end that just leaves you with the
> word itself being a slur.  And that's too bad.  Some words shouldn't be
> treated like that.  Someday it shouldn't matter if you say a person is gay,
> even if they are not.

    That's crap weaseling darlin.  Even if I like you, it's still crap
weaseling.

   It was the negative context that made his use a slur, it was the
negative context that made your use a slur.

   If you didn't intend it, I'd have respected you for just saying "wow,
I didn't mean it that way.  I don't like that use of the word either"

   You didn't.

  You have continued to defend it.  In fact, this is the first I've
actually seen you acknowledge that any use of the word might be a slur -
up to this point, you've just flat stuck to claiming the word isn't a slur.

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