XPost: rec.arts.tv, rec.arts.sf.tv, rec.arts.movies.past-films
From: anybody@anywhere-anytime.com

In article , Merrick
Baldelli  wrote:

> On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 09:00:47 +1200, Anybody
>  wrote:
>
> >In article <6fkn63tjqclmpbi9kpgje5c5edjng7e9me@4ax.com>, Merrick
> >Baldelli  wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 16:28:23 +1200, Anybody
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >> >Not necessairly "calculated" or planned, but it did help in his
> >> >convincing of the Senate that the Jedi had gone bad.
> >>
> >>         Seems a little after the fact, given that Palpatine through
> >> Skywalker's help assassinated the whole of the Jedis before going to
> >> the Senate for their approval.  Hell, in the movie, there wasn't even
> >> a between scene with Palpatine going to the Council to prove this to
> >> be the case.  He just launched the attack and removed them all without
> >> a second though.
> >
> >Palpatine has by that time is in complete control, he doesn't
> >technically need the Senate's approval, but it's still best to try and
> >keep them on his side ... he doesn't even disband them until Episode
> >IV, 20 years later.
>
>         The problem is that he destroys an Order that has been around
> for 1,000 years.  One that the Republic has relied on and has grown to
> trust almost implicitly.  Sure, he's been given temporary powers of
> Marshall Control (or whatever they call 'em), but destroying such an
> organization that has been so heavily relied on would take a hell of a
> lot of oppressive power in order to prevent the current system from
> total upheaval.

Which is exactly what I meant, I just used fewer words.  ;-)



>         I admit it's been one of the major problems I've had with the
> ending of this set of chapters.  It seems entirely too pat for my
> taste.  I admit that I've grown up significantly from "Return of the
> Jedi" to Revenge of the Sith" which makes his whirlwind storytelling
> while entertaining to the kid in me, leaves much to the desired for
> the adult I've become.

And herein lies the entire problem with many "original trilogy fans".
Star Wars *IS* a kids movie - the fact that many of us are around 30
years older is completely irrelevant and it would have made a complete
mess of the Saga if the Prequel Trilogy was somehow made as "grown up"
movies.

Just look at the new "Battlestar Galactica". Yes the new version is
"grown up", yes you may prefer it to the original ... but it doesn't
remotely fit with the original. If it was trying to be a sequel series
(instead of a replacement) then it would be a hopeless mess.





> >> >In the novel is says something about Palpatine's mask being removed, but
> >> >whether that means a literal mask hiding his face or a figurative mask
> >> >hiding his plans is arguable (most likely both since a lot of Star Wars
> >> >has multiple meanings).
> >>
> >>         As I recall Revenge of the Sith was written by Matthew
> >> Woodring Stover.  This means that Stover was given some literary
> >> license to write as he saw fit, with Lucas given the final bless on
> >> the work.  Sorry -- while I like reading the adaptations, I realize
> >> that ultimately that's what they are: adaptations of someone else's
> >> work.
> >
> >The Star Wars movie novelisations are not truely "adaptations" as such,
> >unlike Hollyweird's own in-name-only "adaptations" of books. The movie
> >noveilsations come straight off the script and George Lucas' own extra
> >/ background material (although the script may change after the novels
> >have been written due to the timeframe needed to get the books printed
> >and distributed). Obviously to flesh out the visual script to a
> >readbale book there are bits added by the author, but they are minor
> >and don't affect the main storyline ... whether or not the "mask" is
> >one of those simple author-ideas or something said by George Lucas is
> >unlikely to ever be known unless something else comes along to prove it
> >one way or the other.
>
>         Explain to me "Splinter of the Mind's Eye" by Alan Dean Foster
> again...

I did say the "movie novelisations", not the EU novels.   :-\

Besides which, "Splinter of the Minds Eye" *WAS* originally planned as
the official sequel to "Star Wars", but when the movie became popular
George Lucas decided to make further movies and changed the original
story he had (as he has done while writing all six of the movies).

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