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Subject: Re: Mailutils not shown in Raspbian source ./. Was: Citadel? Courier?
Cyrus? Dovecot? - I just want to backup my emails
Richard Kettlewell wrote:
> not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) writes:
>> Daniel James wrote:
>>> On 24/01/2026 01:25, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>> As a guess: maybe the Raspbian package repo doesn't have sources
>>>> for packages they copied from Debian instead of rebuilding
>>>> themselves?
>>>
>>> Raspbian doesn't copy packages from Debian, it just uses the Debian
>>> repos. The Raspberry Pi's own repo doesn't contain userspace packages
>>> unless they're pi-specific.
>>
>> This is evidently untrue simply from looking at the Raspbian repo's
>> contents. I found out the hard way that some packages like Firefox
>> there are built only for Debian's target ARM architectures, not the
>> early Raspberry Pi boards.
>>
>> Also I haven't seen the Debian repo used in Raspbian sources.list,
>> though I haven't used the more recent RPi OS versions.
>
> It uses both debian.org (or mirrors thereof) and raspberrypi.org. The
> latter has RPi-specific packages (e.g. raspi-config) and RPi-specific
> rebuilds of standard packages (e.g. vlc), but excludes packages where
> the binaries are shared with Debian (e.g. coreutils).
OK, maybe the sources.list has changed in newer versions, but
coreutils _is_ there the RPi repo, and updated in 2025:
http://raspbian.raspberrypi.org/raspbian/pool/main/c/coreutils/
>> Would this even work seeing as there'd be conflicting packages for the
>> same programs? In my experience with Debian on PC, it wouldn't since
>> Apt doesn't favour one repo over another - it just selects whichever
>> package versions look latest.
>
> It works fine...
They did better than the developers of AntiX then, where Aptitude
would keep selecting Systemd-dependent packages from the Debian
repo when they were updated to a newer version than the Sysv ones in
the AntiX repo. I couldn't find any settings to prevent that so I
switched to Devuan which has its own separate repo for all
packages, though most are probably the same as the Debian packages.
I thought it worked like that in RPi OS as well, but I've switched
away from that now.
>>> The issue is probably that /etc/apt/sources.list only has a line for
>>> "deb" packages and not "deb-src" packages, by default.
>>
>> He posted that there was a "deb-src" line already.
>>
>> Anyway it still won't build him the latest Mailutils which would be
>> easy to do the same way he already did it on PC (providing the
>> dependency package names are changed to Debian ones), so I think I
>> give up at this point.
>
> The answer was clear from the original post: OP didn't know how to get
> source packages.
OP won't get source packages for the newer Mailutils version he
wants that way, just the old version used for the package, which
he's not happy with. But OP already has the sources he used for
building the latest version on PC, minus the Debian patches (which
might not work on the latest version anyway).
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