MSGID: <10eicr7$15ti3$2@dont-email.me> 1d2f7d7a   
   REPLY: <10eho4o$10n1h$1@druck.eternal-september.org> f52f1442   
   PID: PyGate 1.5   
   TID: PyGate/Linux 1.5   
   CHRS: ASCII 1   
   TZUTC: 1100   
   REPLYADDR bp@www.zefox.net   
   REPLYTO 3:633/10 UUCP   
   druck  wrote:   
   > On 05/11/2025 23:57, bp@www.zefox.net wrote:   
   >> As a rule, the system(s) report "system is up to date" within a   
   >> few minutes. One of them is a Pi5 with wired ethernet. the other   
   >> is a Pi2 on WiFi.   
   >>    
   >> How long might it take for services to restart   
   >> after that point on the machine with wired ethernet?   
   >    
   > They restart as the update is taking place.   
   >    
   > Instead of using the desktop installer, next time pop up a terminal and    
   > do a:-   
   >    
   >   sudo apt update   
   >   sudo apt full-upgrade -y   
   >    
   > You'll then see all the information on what is doing going by, and when    
   > you get the prompt back it is all done.   
   >    
   > But as I said, something else is going wrong on your system. Is it    
   > chronically short of memory? If so just doing an update could cause    
   > something to be booted out of memory sometime later.   
   >    
   > If you have that terminal still open do a:-   
   >    
   >   free -h   
   >    
      
   The Pi5 reports    
                  total        used        free      shared  buff/cache     
   available   
   Mem:           7.9Gi       2.3Gi       2.0Gi       537Mi       4.2Gi         
   5.6Gi   
   Swap:          199Mi       150Mi        49Mi   
      
   The Pi2 of course much less, around 500M available. Clearly it's both memory   
   and CPU bound. My grumbles were mostly directed at the Pi5, very hard to see   
   how it could have memory limitations.   
      
   Thanks for writing,   
      
   bob prohaska   
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