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   On 23/10/2025 13:16, Theo wrote:   
   > mm0fmf  wrote:   
   >> I run X apps across the home network all the time. I have a small 1L   
   >> computer that acts as a NAS and runs headless. Mostly I just ssh into it   
   >> but there are times when it's easier to run X across the net.   
   >>   
   >> At work I use RDP onto a Windows server over the VPN to access data   
   >> centre developmemt machines in Netherlands from my home. I use X for   
   >> accessing the Linux machines onto the Windows server and RDP to get it   
   >> to my laptop. X across the data centre 1/2.5/10Gb network is plenty fast   
   >> and RDP compresses the data nicely to me. Fast enough to watch video   
   >> generated on a Linux box, X its way to Windows and RDP its way to me.   
   >>   
   >> ssh -C -X someone@somehost to enable compression and X11 forwarding.   
   >    
   > A while back I was playing running remote Wayland apps over ~50Mbps VDSL   
   > using Waypipe.  It works impressively fast - eg remote Youtube video playing   
   > works well enough.  You can also tunnel audio.  Due to latency it works a   
   > lot better than X forwarding over the same connection.  However it doesn't   
   > let you have persistent apps, ie you close down the client (eg a laptop) and   
   > want the app to stay running to reconnect later.   
   >    
   > wprs supports that, but there was a bug with screen scaling (for X11 apps   
   > using Xwayland) that made it awkward to use.  I should go back and see if   
   > they've fixed that.   
   >    
   > Theo   
   Current main home machine runs Debian 13 + Mate with X not Wayland. I    
   must try more options including Waypipe. One day there won't be any X so    
   it would be nice to know how to move from there. Nice to know now not    
   when an update removes X ;-)   
      
   Oh sorry it's not Windows.  Did my last Win10 upgrades on the old    
   machine this Debian box has replaced and also on a W10 VM I have on here    
   for 2 mapping programs that are Windows only. Oh how I was delighted to    
   see a list of updates and also OneDrive installed on to the W10    
   instances without asking or appearing in the list of things to be    
   installed. Fucking Windows, die, die, die!   
      
      
      
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