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   On 20/10/2025 at 21:29, Daniel wrote:   
   > Pancho  writes:   
   >    
   >> On 10/20/25 16:24, Daniel wrote:   
   >>> Daniel  writes:   
   >>>   
   >>>> Daniel James  writes:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On 20/10/2025 00:13, Daniel wrote:   
   >>>>>> I'm a bit turned off by the cooling fan next to the heat sync. Is that   
   >>>>>> fan absolutely necessary for users never intending on overclocking the   
   >>>>>> cpu?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I don't know.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> The production laptop isn't expected to be available until late   
   >>>>> November/early December, so nobody really knows how well the cooling   
   >>>>> solution will work in practice.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> ... but if I had to guess ...   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> It uses a Raspberry Pi Compute Module 5, in a fairly confined space,   
   >>>>> so not much natural airflow. The general consensus of opinion is that   
   >>>>> a CM5 does need a fan unless its workload is trivial. I expect the   
   >>>>> laptop's fan won't come on until the temperature passes some   
   >>>>> threshhold (I have an Argon One case for a Pi4, and that has a fan   
   >>>>> that works in this way) but I would expect it to be necessary when the   
   >>>>> machine is under load.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Thanks. I will wait until the device has hit the wild and await   
   >>>> reviews. I saw reviews already but it was tech youtubers who got a   
   >>>> preproduction model.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I'd be interested in the keyboard quality. Can't be worse than the   
   >>>> pi400's.   
   >>> The argon 40 studio put up a youtube prototyping vid of the   
   >>> build. Nice   
   >>> rig.   
   >>> https://da.gd/4QK0N   
   >>> If you dont trust shortened url's, check youtube for   
   >>> Behind the Build: Prototyping the Argon ONE UP   
   >>> D   
   >>   
   >> Thx, It looks as if they don't have a heat sync on the compute   
   >> module. I would have thought it made sense to use the aluminium case   
   >> as a heat sync rather than have a fan.   
   >>   
   >> Any ideas why they would design it like that?   
   >    
   > The rectangular plate screwing into the bottom of the laptop serves as a   
   > heat sync. IIRC, it's a different alloy than the aluminum case. I wish   
      
   This thread has been annoying me. It's 'heat sink'; sync is short for    
   synchronise.   
      
      
   > they just made a larger plate and avoid the fan altogether, but that's   
   > just me.   
   >    
   > Nothing out there makes me fully happy.   
   >    
      
      
      
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