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   On 20/10/2025 21:29, Daniel wrote:   
   > Chris Townley  writes:   
   >    
   >> On 20/10/2025 16:24, Daniel wrote:   
   >>> Daniel  writes:   
   >>>   
   >>>> Daniel James  writes:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On 20/10/2025 00:13, Daniel wrote:   
   >>>>>> I'm a bit turned off by the cooling fan next to the heat sync. Is that   
   >>>>>> fan absolutely necessary for users never intending on overclocking the   
   >>>>>> cpu?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I don't know.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> The production laptop isn't expected to be available until late   
   >>>>> November/early December, so nobody really knows how well the cooling   
   >>>>> solution will work in practice.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> ... but if I had to guess ...   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> It uses a Raspberry Pi Compute Module 5, in a fairly confined space,   
   >>>>> so not much natural airflow. The general consensus of opinion is that   
   >>>>> a CM5 does need a fan unless its workload is trivial. I expect the   
   >>>>> laptop's fan won't come on until the temperature passes some   
   >>>>> threshhold (I have an Argon One case for a Pi4, and that has a fan   
   >>>>> that works in this way) but I would expect it to be necessary when the   
   >>>>> machine is under load.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Thanks. I will wait until the device has hit the wild and await   
   >>>> reviews. I saw reviews already but it was tech youtubers who got a   
   >>>> preproduction model.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I'd be interested in the keyboard quality. Can't be worse than the   
   >>>> pi400's.   
   >>> The argon 40 studio put up a youtube prototyping vid of the   
   >>> build. Nice   
   >>> rig.   
   >>> https://da.gd/4QK0N   
   >>> If you dont trust shortened url's, check youtube for   
   >>> Behind the Build: Prototyping the Argon ONE UP   
   >>> D   
   >>   
   >> I wouldn't trust anything from Argon40 again   
   >    
   >    
   > What happened, if you don't mind my asking?   
      
   I had an Argon One for a Pi4 - great, then when I bought a Pi5 I got    
   their V3 plus the NVME connector.   
      
   In principle it is great, but their software install is a pile of    
   spaghetti shell script, and doesn?t really work, although I found an    
   alternative that did.   
      
   However their design is flawed, as it uses it's own board that filters    
   out a lot of checks. Their support forum is carp - they just don't    
   respond to anything.   
      
   I did get it working, but enough grief for me!   
      
   --    
   Chris   
      
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