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   Pancho  writes:   
      
   > On 10/20/25 16:24, Daniel wrote:   
   >> Daniel  writes:   
   >>    
   >>> Daniel James  writes:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 20/10/2025 00:13, Daniel wrote:   
   >>>>> I'm a bit turned off by the cooling fan next to the heat sync. Is that   
   >>>>> fan absolutely necessary for users never intending on overclocking the   
   >>>>> cpu?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I don't know.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The production laptop isn't expected to be available until late   
   >>>> November/early December, so nobody really knows how well the cooling   
   >>>> solution will work in practice.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> ... but if I had to guess ...   
   >>>>   
   >>>> It uses a Raspberry Pi Compute Module 5, in a fairly confined space,   
   >>>> so not much natural airflow. The general consensus of opinion is that   
   >>>> a CM5 does need a fan unless its workload is trivial. I expect the   
   >>>> laptop's fan won't come on until the temperature passes some   
   >>>> threshhold (I have an Argon One case for a Pi4, and that has a fan   
   >>>> that works in this way) but I would expect it to be necessary when the   
   >>>> machine is under load.   
   >>>   
   >>> Thanks. I will wait until the device has hit the wild and await   
   >>> reviews. I saw reviews already but it was tech youtubers who got a   
   >>> preproduction model.   
   >>>   
   >>> I'd be interested in the keyboard quality. Can't be worse than the   
   >>> pi400's.   
   >> The argon 40 studio put up a youtube prototyping vid of the   
   >> build. Nice   
   >> rig.   
   >> https://da.gd/4QK0N   
   >> If you dont trust shortened url's, check youtube for   
   >> Behind the Build: Prototyping the Argon ONE UP   
   >> D   
   >   
   > Thx, It looks as if they don't have a heat sync on the compute   
   > module. I would have thought it made sense to use the aluminium case   
   > as a heat sync rather than have a fan.   
   >   
   > Any ideas why they would design it like that?   
      
   The rectangular plate screwing into the bottom of the laptop serves as a   
   heat sync. IIRC, it's a different alloy than the aluminum case. I wish   
   they just made a larger plate and avoid the fan altogether, but that's   
   just me.   
      
   Nothing out there makes me fully happy.   
      
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