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   On 9/14/25 15:04, bp@www.zefox.net wrote:   
   > The Natural Philosopher  wrote:   
   >> Are these old style logs or the dreaded systemd?   
   >>   
   >    
   > This is a systemd machine, but after looking around in response to   
   > suggestions made above it seems less than  5 MB is used by journals.   
   > That's not enough to matter.   
   >    
   > Evidently I've just added too many packages.   
   >    
   > Is there some way to coax the Add/Remove Programs application   
   > to list installed packages, ideally by size? Then I can clean   
   > house manually. The chromium browser will likely be the first   
   > to go 8-)   
   >    
   > Thanks to all for replying, and apologies for the misguided question!   
   >    
   > bob prohaska   
   >    
      
   Edit /etc/systemd/journald.conf file to enable SystemMaxUse and set it    
   equal to some value that will give you enough but not too much logs.  I    
   use 128M.  If you have files building up in /var/log, every month I    
   delete all the .gz archived logs.  This is an example script:   
      
   #!/bin/bash   
      
   echo "delete-old-logs"   
      
   rm -v /var/log/*.gz   
   rm -v /var/log/apache2/*.gz   
   rm -v /var/log/apt/*.gz   
   rm -v /var/log/cups/*.gz   
   rm -v /var/log/lightdm/*.gz   
   rm -v /var/log/unattended-upgrades/*.gz   
      
   Change or add to the list above according to you actual needs.   
      
   8GB if you have a desktop installed is probably a little small for    
   Bookworm.  I tell my employer he needs to use a 16GB uSD for Bookworm    
   with a desktop.  8GB was fine on Buster but just isn't enough any more.   
      
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