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   Richard Kettlewell  wrote:   
   > bp@www.zefox.net writes:   
   >> Richard Kettlewell  wrote:   
   >>> What command(s) did you use?   
   >> The usual,   
   >> sudo apt update   
   >> sudo apt upgrade   
   >   
   > I would suggest using ‘apt-get dist-upgrade’, if upgrading manually,   
   > because:   
   >   
   > (1) ‘apt upgrade’ will currently never remove a package, even if that’s   
   >     necessary to upgrade something else.   
   >   
   > (2) ‘apt’ is permitted to meaning from version to version, so any advice   
   >     given about it today could be invalidated tomorrow.   
   >   
   >> It does seem that upgrades trickle in slowly, as advertised by the   
   >> "update available" icon. It seems as if there needs to be some   
   >> additional information offered on when to upgrade and/or reboot.   
   >   
   > When to upgrade:   
   >   
   > * I use https://wiki.debian.org/UnattendedUpgrades, which takes most of   
   >   the hassle out of it.   
   >   
   > When to reboot:   
   >   
   > * /var/run/reboot-required should be nonempty if you need a reboot.   
   >   
   > * https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/needrestart should help with   
   >   reboot notifications.   
   >   
   > * unattended-upgrades mentions any need to reboot in its email   
   >   notifications.   
      
   Thank you very much! I wasn't aware of the nuances you've presented.   
   For now /var/run/reboot-required doesn't exist. I'll start checking   
   it regularly.   
      
   bob prohaska   
      
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