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   On 26 Jan 2025 at 20:23:47, Chris Green  wrote:   
   > Andy Burns  wrote:   
   >> Chris Green wrote:   
   >>   
   >> > Is there **really** such a big security issue with default login names   
   >> > and passwords on Raspberry Pis?  Surely almost all of them are going   
   >> > to be on home networks behind NAT routers and also surely no one is   
   >> > going to (without thinking about it a bit!) put confidential data on   
   >> > one.   
   >>   
   >> Plenty of Pis (especially the compute modules) end-up in industrial kit,   
   >> maybe not much data on them, but you don't want them being used to   
   >> laterally attack other systems.   
   >>   
   >>    
   >>   
   >>        "Passwords must be—   
   >>                (a)unique per product; or   
   >>                (b)defined by the user of the product."   
   >   
   > Ah, so it's legislation has caused this. :-)   
   >   
   > Again I say, anyone who is actually deploying Pis in such a situation   
   > needs to know what they're doing.  If they don't know what they're   
   > doing no amount of legislation is going to help much.   
   >   
   >   
   > What really is getting to me is that the non-GUI user who wants to use   
   > a Pi (or arduino or BBB) to moinitor the temperature in his garage   
      
   An RPi is overkill for a job like that.   
   An ESP32 or Arduino will keep things simple at far lower cost.   
      
   > ends up having to jumpo through lots of unnecessary hoops to do it. To   
   > a significant extent it's because the Pi has become much more 'mass   
   > market'.   
   >   
   > Oh well, I guess I can live with it. Rant over.  :-)   
      
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