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   On 2024-11-28, Lawrence D'Oliveiro  wrote:   
   >> No, as far as the wireless channel and the access point are concerned,   
   >> these are two separate clients.  That they are attached to the same host   
   >> does not matter, they will cooperate / share airtime.   
   >   
   > Regardless of how you look at it, they are colliding with each other.   
      
   Yes, but CSMA/CA reduces that to a point where it works fine unless the   
   channel is heavily loaded.   
      
   > Having two interfaces on the same channel cannot magically double its   
   > bandwidth.   
      
   I never said that - of course they share the bandwidth, just like two   
   separate clients do.  Noone installs one separate access point for every   
   device they use (not only because you would run out of free channels quite   
   quick, even with 5/6GHz) - multiple devices connected to a single AP is a   
   standard, supported scenario. Even when one client does heavy up/downloads,   
   the others will notice a slowdown, but not the packet loss problems that   
   were the start of this thread.   
      
   > And because both transmitters are so close to each other, that   
   > aggravates the losses from frame collisions.   
      
   How? Being close to each other, they can easily "see" when the channel is   
   busy and will not step over each other's foot. Contrary, widely spaced clients   
   lead to the "hidden station" problem where two stations each "see" the   
   access point, but not each other, and start to transmit at the same time.   
      
   cu   
   Michael   
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