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   Chris Elvidge to The Natural Philosopher   
   Re: My question isn't about the fault, i   
   15 Sep 24 12:49:23   
   
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   On 15/09/2024 at 11:16, The Natural Philosopher wrote:   
   > On 14/09/2024 22:25, Chris Elvidge wrote:   
   >> On 14/09/2024 at 19:32, The Natural Philosopher wrote:   
   >>> On 14/09/2024 16:38, Chris Elvidge wrote:   
   >>>> On 14/09/2024 at 15:37, The Natural Philosopher wrote:   
   >>>>> On 14/09/2024 11:33, The Natural Philosopher wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 14/09/2024 08:12, Pancho wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> Prolly easier to get an HDMI and USB adapter and pop a monitor and   
   >>>>>> keyboard on it.   
   >>>>>> I spent hours yesterday googling for PI ZERO 2 W WIFI DISCONNECTS   
   >>>>>> and everybody has the same problem. Must be 1000 posts out there.   
   >>>>>> It seems that the 2W is basically a piece of shit. People try SD   
   >>>>>> cards that work perfectly in the Zero W, but don't work in the 2W.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> I tried every methodology suggested, and its still doing it.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> I am tempted to buy the old version, two  of which have been   
   >>>>>> faultlessly connected to the same wifi point for several years....   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Unfortunately I soldered a header block to this one so I can't   
   >>>>>> return it. Bin job probably.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>> Well another day of configgling   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Tried to make it talk to a different wifi point. Bricked it.   
   >>>>> Reinstalled OS lite and started setting up. (again!)   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> The Pi ZERO 2W apparently uses a different wifi chip - SYMANTEC   
   >>>>> SYN43436, not the old BROADCOMM BCM43438   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Where did you get this info?   
   >>>> On mine module cfg80211 is loaded by brcmfmac (broadcom?).   
   >>>>   
   >>> Apparently there are two possible chips. Broadcomm and symantec   
   >>> I THINK I have the broadcomm   
   >>>   
   >>> dmesg | grep brcmfmac   
   >>> [   12.461334] brcmfmac: F1 signature read @0x18000000=0x1541a9a6   
   >>> [   12.467893] brcmfmac: brcmf_fw_alloc_request: using   
   >>> brcm/brcmfmac43430-sdio for chip BCM43430/1   
   >>> [   12.468806] usbcore: registered new interface driver brcmfmac   
   >>> [   12.731339] brcmfmac: brcmf_c_process_txcap_blob: no txcap_blob   
   >>> available (err=-2)   
   >>> [   12.732079] brcmfmac: brcmf_c_preinit_dcmds: Firmware: *   
   >>> BCM43430/1* wl0: Jun 14 2023 07:27:45 version 7.45.96.s1 (gf031a129)   
   >>> FWID 01-70bd2af7 es7   
   >>> [   15.888471] brcmfmac: brcmf_cfg80211_set_power_mgmt: power save   
   >>> enabled   
   >>>   
   >>> That's exactly  the same as my 'working perfectly' Pi Zero 1W...   
   >>>   
   >>> So its probably not that.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>> Model       : Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W Rev 1.0   
   >>>> Revision    : 902120   
   >>>> Raspberry Pi OS (bookworm, full); kernel  6.6.47+rpt-rpi-v8   
   >>>>   
   >>>> No problems with wifi over the last few weeks.   
   >>>> Wavlink M30HG4.V5030.191116   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Now bluetooth, there's a whole nother story!!   
   >>>>   
   >>> Disabled that baby straight off.   
   >>>   
   >>> Its very strange.   
   >>>   
   >>> Its 64 bit instead of 32 bit.   
   >>>   
   >>> But that's all that seems radically different hardware wise.   
   >>>   
   >>> Again some rumours are that the zero 2 being power hungry may be   
   >>> loading the PSU more.   
   >>>   
   >>> But in the middle of the night? Doing NOTHING?   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> I started with 32bit lite but swapped to 64bit full just to see what   
   >> happened. I had had no problems with 32bit lite (except bluetooth, see   
   >> above). However I haven't stopped bluetooth, just don't (as yet) use   
   >> it. My dmesg looks much the same as yours.   
   >>   
   >> I feed mine from a 2.4 amp source.   
   >> But I also have USB3 hub + ethernet port feeding 256Gb SSD and USB   
   >> speaker.   
   >>   
   >   
   > Mmm. I was feeding mine, on the basis that it was drawing less than half   
   > an amp, from a very small PSU I normally use for Pi Picos.   
   >   
   > I swapped that for a generic phone charger PSU and added a line that   
   > someone suggested to config.txt:   
   >   
   > over_voltage=2   
   >   
   > Its been stable doing an rsync backup of itself overnight, and is still   
   > up this morning.   
   >   
   > Power saving is in fact on, on the wifi interface.   
   >   
   > Journalctl reveals no entries to do with wifi AT ALL since 8 o clock   
   > yesterday evening when it was rebooted.   
   >   
   > I think the key was in realising that on mine at least the wifi hardware   
   > was the same as on the 32 bit zeros.   
   >   
   > So if they connected to my old POS Netgear ex ADSL router transgendered   
   > into a wifi access point, so should this one.   
   >   
   > I will probably try reverting to the PICO power supply and see if that   
   > makes any difference.   
   >   
   > And get a voltmeter or scope on the supply rails.   
   >   
   > Maybe there is trash...   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   Perhaps you could use vcgencmd to look at/monitor various internals.   
   E.g. vcgencmd [measure_temp|measure_clock core|measure_volts]   
   I think over_voltage is a red herring, it limits the CPU/GPU upper   
   voltage doesn't set it (AFAICS).   
   https://www.raspberrypi.com/documentation/computers/config_txt.html   
      
      
      
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