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   On 21/08/2024 07:23, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:   
   > I'm just gonna say it ... WORM earns that name.   
   >   
   > Alas, on a PI, still not much other choice. LOTS   
   > of things totally screwed up - needlessly. I think   
   > Deb hired a bunch of Canonical rejects ... SHAME !   
   > If I wanted the Ubuntu mess I'd have installed that.   
      
   I agree the latest Bookworm is not set up the way I want it. I don't   
   want Wayland or Network Manager, and I do want Xorg and rsyslog.   
      
   > HOPING for something like a Devuian fork -   
   > an "original Deb" offshoot - even based   
   > on BullsEye it'd be a huge improvement.   
   > Based on Buster would be even better - still   
   > all the old config files and such in the   
   > well-documented places/formats.   
      
   My set up has been migrated from whatever was on the very first 256MB Pi   
   (Stretch?) all the way through to Bullseye on the Pi 4B. With a not   
   quite in place 32 bit to 64 bit Bullseye upgrade, I was then able to in   
   place upgrade to 64 bit Bookworm, and transfer to the Pi 5 - but   
   successfully keeping everything set up identically to how it was previously.   
      
   If that option hadn't worked, I'd definitely be looking for alternate   
   distros.   
      
   > So SAD - Deb used to be 'the rock', 'the   
   > foundation', with no BS. How quickly things   
   > can go bad ....... beware .........   
      
   Thing is because I always in place upgraded, I didn't notice when the   
   rot had set in, and was horrified at the changes that had been made when   
   I initially did a clean install of Bookworm for the Pi 5.   
      
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