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   I'm just gonna say it ... WORM earns that name.   
      
   Alas, on a PI, still not much other choice. LOTS   
   of things totally screwed up - needlessly. I think   
   Deb hired a bunch of Canonical rejects ... SHAME !   
   If I wanted the Ubuntu mess I'd have installed that.   
      
   Eventually, December maybe, Fedora will finally be   
   tuned for the Pi5 and its weird boot requirements.   
   USE THAT ! If you have a Pi4 or lower, download   
   the OLDER distributions.   
      
   On OTHER boxes I've moved to either Manjaro or   
   Fedora-40/XFCE at this point. No more Deb.   
      
   HOPING for something like a Devuian fork -   
   an "original Deb" offshoot - even based   
   on BullsEye it'd be a huge improvement.   
   Based on Buster would be even better - still   
   all the old config files and such in the   
   well-documented places/formats.   
      
   So SAD - Deb used to be 'the rock', 'the   
   foundation', with no BS. How quickly things   
   can go bad ....... beware .........   
      
   Manjaro IS pretty good ... but don't love   
   the 'rolling release' aspect. I have low   
   bandwidth and most any update basically   
   re-installs EVERYTHING. A very sledgehammer   
   solution to the dependencies problem.   
      
   PIs are, well, weird. If you read all the   
   text during the installs/updates you will   
   see all kinds of funky patches/workarounds.   
   They're kind of the halfway point between   
   micro-controllers and standard CPU systems   
   and, well, it's WEIRD. They DO have their   
   place however !   
      
   But if you DON'T need all those I/O pins,   
   consider a BeeLink or BMax mini-box instead.   
      
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