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   Ahem A Rivet's Shot  wrote:   
   > On Mon, 17 Jun 2024 18:03:37 -0000 (UTC)   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   >> Ahem A Rivet's Shot  wrote:   
   >> > On Sun, 16 Jun 2024 23:42:41 -0000 (UTC)   
   >   
   >> >          More like five years, the 80386 came out in 1987. There were   
   >> > BSD ports available by 1993 and the first Linux release was in 1991.   
   >> > However that's just open source - There were commercial XENIX and   
   >> > Interactive ports earlier - even for the 80286.   
   >>   
   >> We're comparing different endpoints. I started with 386BSD and it   
   >> could be made to install and run by about 1992, but that alone was   
   >> an accomplishment for a non-expert like me. It took a few more   
   >   
   >         Indeed it was - did you have the patch kit ?   
      
   Not to begin with, the patch kit came later. Can't remember exactly   
   when I started with 386BSD. The Byte issues had gone to the bindery,   
   so it was at least six months after publication.   
      
   >   
   >> years to become _usable_ by non-experts, in the form of FreeBSD.   
   >   
   >         Nope FreeBSD 1.0 came out in November 1993 - I was using 1.1.5.1 to   
   > run a Dublin based ISP in 1994. We gave Jordan Hubbard a free account when   
   > we discovered he was visiting Ireland and he gave us a stack of 1.1 discs.   
   > He got the better deal :)   
   >   
      
   IIRC 1.1.5.1 worked pretty well, as the last encumbered version. Am I   
   confused? The early un-encumbered versions were somewhat rough.   
   [encumbered meaning "contains AT&T code"]   
      
   >> Maybe I'm off a little on the dates (I learned of 386BSD about a   
   >> year after the Byte Magazine series by Jolitz) but then it was   
   >> still very fiddly. By about 1997-8 I was using FreeBSD for email.   
   >   
   >         That would be late 2.2 or early 3.0 days - 3.0 was the release that   
   > included APM support for laptops, one of the few occasions I ran -current.   
      
   3.0 rings a bell.   
      
   Thanks for writing,   
      
   bob prohaska   
      
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