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   On Mon, 17 Jun 2024 18:03:37 -0000 (UTC)   
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   > Ahem A Rivet's Shot  wrote:   
   > > On Sun, 16 Jun 2024 23:42:41 -0000 (UTC)   
      
   > >          More like five years, the 80386 came out in 1987. There were   
   > > BSD ports available by 1993 and the first Linux release was in 1991.   
   > > However that's just open source - There were commercial XENIX and   
   > > Interactive ports earlier - even for the 80286.   
   >   
   > We're comparing different endpoints. I started with 386BSD and it   
   > could be made to install and run by about 1992, but that alone was   
   > an accomplishment for a non-expert like me. It took a few more   
      
   	Indeed it was - did you have the patch kit ?   
      
   > years to become _usable_ by non-experts, in the form of FreeBSD.   
      
   	Nope FreeBSD 1.0 came out in November 1993 - I was using 1.1.5.1 to   
   run a Dublin based ISP in 1994. We gave Jordan Hubbard a free account when   
   we discovered he was visiting Ireland and he gave us a stack of 1.1 discs.   
   He got the better deal :)   
      
   > Maybe I'm off a little on the dates (I learned of 386BSD about a   
   > year after the Byte Magazine series by Jolitz) but then it was   
   > still very fiddly. By about 1997-8 I was using FreeBSD for email.   
      
   	That would be late 2.2 or early 3.0 days - 3.0 was the release that   
   included APM support for laptops, one of the few occasions I ran -current.   
      
   > Others were doubtless quicker on the uptake, but they were a select   
      
   	Many others between 1994 and 1998.   
      
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