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In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 14/02/2024 11:39, Bob Latham wrote:
> > In article ,
> > The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> > Surely you remember that we had professors of serious note like
> > Sunetra Gupta who were completely shut out of the conversation
> > because politicians had decided what the truth was going to be
> > and only allowed doctors who agreed with the narrative to speak.
> > Perhaps you were unaware of the group that formed of viral
> > experts from across the globe offering an alternative view which
> > was shut out.
> >
> If they were shut out, how could I become aware?.
So you admit you did not hear anything but the agenda main stream
media and did no research yourself. You just sucked up the official
narrative alone.
And yet, you know all the answers and I'm making all the mistakes.
Well I knew because I wanted a balanced view. I knew I couldn't get
that from the obvious agenda pushing media. So I made a small effort
to find out.
I wanted to know why the decades old plan on what we would do in the
event of a pandemic was thrown out instantly.
It wasn't hard to find prof Gupta who at the time was the UKs leading
person in the field but she didn't have the "correct" opinion. From
her I found many others, profs from across the globe who formed an
organisation, I can't recall the name I'm old.
> Look, I really wasn't that *interested*.
But you know far more than me and I'm making the mistakes - ok.
> There are always groups of people with views that they hope will
> bring them 15 minutes of fame and a career on the Telly.
Ridiculous argument. She was/is the leader in the field but disagreed
with the narrative.
> As I recall, and I dint pay much attention at the time,
Yes I think that's very clear.
> the choice was initially between lockdown and a massive epidemic
> culling the herd and leaving the rest with immunity.
Very much the same as climate loons telling us about tipping points
and flooded cities.
So, your life was in danger but you weren't interested to know even
the basics of the arguments at the time.
I on the other had was interested and did my research into what was
being said, not by loons after fame but experts, the best we had.
> With an NHS in crisis
That has also been openly questioned. Did you see the empty hospital
wards and staff doing well choreographed tic tok dancing because they
had nothing to do? You didn't? You didn't do much looking then.
Yes, I also saw brave staff working on the covid wards.
> and unable to cope, and a potential death rate up to half a
> million.
According to pants down, the well known established, world champion
catastrophiser.
Did you not see his prediction of the deaths in Sweden due to the
policies they were following? Did you later see that they did far
better than virtually every other country? Pants down was light years
out AGAIN! I was shocked as you can imagine.
> My cardiologist told me 'even if I wanted to, I cant send you to
> Papworth, because the open heart surgery equipment that keeps
> patients alive when they have stopped breathing and their hearts
> have stopped, is fully in use keeping COVID patients alive'.
Okay. I'm genuinely sad to hear you're in such a state, I hope things
improve.
> Why would he lie?
I'm sorry, I didn't say he lied, that statement may well be true.
Important for you I can see but not for the argument.
Yesterday you told me my cousin would probably have died without the
jabs. That's utterly ridiculous, the chances of her dying were very
slight indeed. No sense of true proportion there at all.
You blast me who was interested and did research and you admit you
did none you just soaked up the nonsense on the BBC and pants down's
prophecy of doom.
You didn't appear to even know that Omicron was the saviour or why.
I'll tell you why. Omicron affected the upper airways and not the
lungs. This meant that it was more transmissible through coughing but
was not so dangerous because it did not attack the lungs.
You should have known THAT!
Omicron also gave anti-bodies against delta which is why Delta was
seen off quickly. Oddly, Delta anti-bodies did not work against
Omicron.
Omicron was the best thing that could have happened, pity you didn't
know about it. I don't recall main stream media explaining that !
To repeat what I've said for clarity.
I've seen evidence, very real evidence of vaccine harms up close.
I know the vaccine did not stop you catching covid as it was claimed.
I know that Omicron changed the whole game in very short order, you
would know that if you had done the most basic research outside of
lying MSM which was desperate to shut down anything even slightly
outside the narrative.
I've not seen any evidence that the vaccines helped with recovery.
That does not mean they didn't.
I know masks didn't work it was a lie.
I know PCR tests were set way too sensitive to give meaningful data.
I know the elderly were forced into care homes and given end of life
treatment, instead of treating their illness.
> The scientific realty is that when we look at average annual death
> rates, for whatever reason, there were around 150,000 more deaths
> than expected during covid. It's like my friend, he isn't dying of
> Covid, he is just dying. But if he hadn't had Covid he might have
> lasted another couple of years.
So what, how is that relevant? I've not said people didn't die of
covid or things that happened as a result of covid.
> Another friends wife didn't due strictly of motor neurone disease,
> she died when she stopped breathing. Because her nervous system
> stopped telling her lungs what to do. Or because she was given too
> much medication (or just enough)
There is no point in me continuing. It's clear from your remarks and
your admission that you were not interested to do the most basic
research and that your view of reality on this subject is entirely
propaganda led and then some.
I'm done you'll be glad to know.
Bob.
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