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   The Natural Philosopher to Ahem A Rivet's Shot   
   Re: Google Groups   
   14 Feb 24 15:23:13   
   
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   On 14/02/2024 14:27, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:   
   > On Wed, 14 Feb 2024 13:23:38 +0000   
   > The Natural Philosopher  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 14/02/2024 11:42, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:   
   >>> On Wed, 14 Feb 2024 10:37:48 +0000   
   >>> The Natural Philosopher  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> And expecting politicians to tell the complicated truth, which at that   
   >>>> point they don't even know,  rather than a simple narrative they think   
   >>>> the plebs will understand.   
   >>>   
   >>> 	It has to be one that *they* all understand *and* think they can   
   >>> sell to their voters.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> Indeed so.   
   >>   
   >> But the staggering lack of STEM graduates in politics has to be allowed   
   >> for. They are all ArtStudents™	to a man. And they treat the rest   
   >   
   > 	I think you are being unfair to ArtStudents™ these folks tended to   
   > study things like economics and politics, nothing as tangible and sane as   
   > art.   
   >   
   When we were engineering students, there were only engineers and art   
   students. It was a standing joke.   
      
   It's a bit like "all science  is  physics, or stamp collecting".   
      
   You know what is meant.   
      
   Engineers dealt with the real world only, and if it works, that's all   
   that matters.   
      
   Art students deal with *ideas about the world* and never seem to care   
   whether anything works or not so long as it looks good and sounds good.   
      
   Politicians are there to influence peoples opinions. They do not these   
   days actually run anything, and if they try the result is a normally   
   complete cockup.   
      
   Their arrogance comes from the fact that indeed, a lot of people do   
   really believe them. Their insecurity comes from the fact that a heck of   
   a lot routinely don't believe a word they say.   
      
   If I learnt anything canvassing for UKIP, it was the massive contempt   
   and resentment that the ordinary man felt for the government, especially   
   the EU.   
      
   "If you want a foreigner for a neighbour, vote Liberal Democrat, Tory or   
   Labour"   
      
   Clearly - gasp - xenophobic, but hey, people are entitled to their   
   opinions aren't they?   
   Labour seems entitled to basically blame Jews for everything, cheered on   
   by the Muslim diaspora.   
      
   Look. its all about simple narratives for simple people, but   
   surprisingly its the simplest people - the working class - who seem not   
   to be listening any more.   
   It is in fact the educated middle classes who are in thrall to all this   
   bullshit.   
      
   My thesis is that by and large people have with the assistance of the   
   mass media and the politicians completely lost touch with reality. It   
   doesn't help that they live in cities too, which are 100% artificial   
   environments. The only people who have any oidea about reality are the   
   people who routinely have to deal with it. Car mechanics, drain   
   unblockers, bricklayers, midwives etc.   
      
   The rest live in cloud cuckoo land manipulating abstract concepts as if   
   they were reality.   
      
   Fucking art students.   
      
      
      
      
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   “The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that   
   the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt."   
      
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