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   On 14/02/2024 10:25, Bob Latham wrote:   
   > In article ,   
   >     mm0fmf  wrote:   
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   >> A vaccinated person who contracts the virus (normally with reduced   
   >> effects) will normally have coughs and sneezes with a reduced viral   
   >> payload compared to a non-vaccinated person. This is how   
   >> transmission is reduced by vaccination. The word being reduced not   
   >> eliminated.   
   >   
   > I hope that is true.   
   >   
   > Evidence?   
   >   
   >   
   Well its all a bit hard to be sure. Science is like that.   
      
   It could be the man tearing newspapers up and throwing them out of the   
   train windows to 'keep the elephants down'. What Elephants?  That's how   
   effective it is....   
      
   Or it could be that the vaccines have done what they were intended to   
   do, taken the edge off Covid until what's left is a population with   
   moderate resistance and mutated strains that are not much worse than the   
   flu.   
      
   In the end we can't know the truth, because we don't have any   
   unvaccinated populations to act as control groups.   
      
   All we know is that the human race has muddled through to the position   
   where Covid is a minor, not a major threat, and we can all go on living.   
      
   I've had every jab going, may or may not have had Covid so mildly that I   
   never distinguished it from a touch of flu or a slight cold, but a   
   friend of mine is in hospital dying essentially of old age, but what   
   took him over the edge was Covid the other month.   
      
   It was the last straw, Now he has essentially given up the struggle.   
      
   It's probably not worth getting hot under the collar about.   
      
   Life is, in the final analysis a strange mystery anyway, and getting   
   upset that we don't understand it at all, is why they invented religion.   
      
   "Its OK, God knows what's he is doing¨.   
      
   As against "Its not OK! God knows WHAT *they* are doing".   
      
   In a very real sense, it is your choice what to believe, and in the   
   absence of evidence one way or another, why not believe, pro tem, in   
   what makes life a bit more comfortable.   
      
   I guess I prefer to believe that the powers that be are a bunch of   
   paranoid bumbling incompetents rather than some Edwardian Evil Genius   
   like  Professor  Moriarty or Fu Manchu...   
      
   I mean. Look at Biden. Or Trump for that matter. Not the sharpest knives   
   in the drawer are they?   
      
   Or Bill Gates. Got a lot of power, but is he a genius? Not really.   
      
   Remember the world is whatever *is* the case, but peoples lives and   
   their choices are governed by what they *believe* to be the case.   
      
   And the mum whose kid dies of German measles because she *believed* MMR   
   was dangerous, is a victim of that belief.   
      
   I've known people who survived Polio - just. At my first school was one   
   such. I had no problem in getting that vaccine, I can tell you.   
      
   Nor with smallpox vaccinations, which I was one of the ones I got. Along   
   with BCG for tuberculosis.   
      
   I got ill with measles, German measles and scarlet fever and mumps, and   
   extremely unpleasant they were too.   
      
   I missed diptheria, thank heavens.   
      
   Perhaps you are younger, and don't remember an age where people of the   
   previous generation died like flies from raging bacterial infections,   
   which the new fangled antibiotics stopped stone dead, or raging viral   
   infections, for which the only known remedy was quality nursing and   
   isolation. And which often left the patient damaged for life, if not dead.   
      
   Slowly we developed vaccines for the viral infections, and they are now   
   a standard part of childhood.  And the proof of the pudding is that we   
   no longer have epidemics of childhood diseases. Or at leats we didn't   
   before parents were scared into not letting their kids get vaccinated,   
   and the influx of immigrants brought all the old diseases back.   
      
   Believe what ever you want, in the absence of certain knowledge, which   
   is the human condition.  And the reason for religion, which promises a   
   certainty it surely cannot deliver.  But, if believed in. makes you feel   
   a lot better.   
      
      
   --   
   How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think.   
      
   Adolf Hitler   
      
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