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In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 13/02/2024 16:26, Bob Latham wrote:
> > In article ,
> > mm0fmf wrote:
> >> On 13/02/2024 15:32, Bob Latham wrote:
> > Do I take that as a tacit admission that vaccines don't protect
> > you from infection? Have we also dropped the notion that it helps
> > if you get infected?
> >
> Oh dear. We have an ArtStudent
mind. Stuck in Boolean logic.
> You are asking an ArtStudent
question.
Oh full personal attack mode I see. Thanks for that.
> The scientific questions is *how much* do vaccines reduce the risk
> of infection, and the severity of the subsequent disease, and the
> answer is, shitloads.
Evidence? I've seen none, not one jot.
> Anyone of any minor intelligence who actually thinks about it,
> understands that. Vaccines increase natural immunity. It takes more
> of someone else's virus load to make you sick and you wont get
> *as* sick.
> So leave you stupid 'is it perfect?, if not it doesn't work' logic
> at home.
Right so there is a video that shows presidents, prime ministers
doctors and professors all claiming they didn't say it stopped you
getting covid. Then the video goes on to show them all saying exactly
that.
> > Do people cough, sneeze and breath less ?
> >
> Yes, they cough, sneeze and breath less virus load.
> > Why then hasn't covid stopped?
> It *has* stopped. Killing people.
> Vaccines have brought it down to flu level - a bad week maybe in
> bed with painkillers, and that's it. Not a life threatening
> infection with people gasping for breath and dying.
No Omicron. The virus continuously mutates and the covid virus
followed the normal pattern of becoming more contagious and less
deadly with each mutation. The virus gains nothing by killing the
host.
> I suffer when my blood oxygen goes below 90%, which it has done at
> times when I was being loaded into an ambulance.
> The [paramedics said 'its when its down at 50% an te patient is
> blue and gasping for breath, that we put on the blue lights and
> sirens' I saidf'whgen does that happen?'
> 'Covid'.
I sympathise but it proves nothing.
> Almaist everybody has had it by now
Exactly.
The vaccines don't stop you getting infected, absolute fact !!
I've seen no evidence the vaccines improve your recovery.
It *may* do but I've seen zero evidence only conjecture and wishful
thinking by the guilty.
I've seen no evidence that it reduces transmission at all. The
manufacturers have admitted that no testing on transmission was done.
Perhaps you've forgotten , the virus mutated to a much milder forms
again and again, Alpha, Beta, Delta, Omicron.
It was Omicron that saved the day, it wiped away all the more deadly
earlier strains. Don't you remember the data showing the deadly
strains disappearing by the day as mild Omicron took over.
> Lucky cousin. Without vaccinations she would probably be dead.
Probably, probably ?????
FFS !!!
What percentage of unvaxed adults do you think died of covid?
Greater than 50%? Probably ???
Absurd. The vast majority of unvaxed people with covid even the early
nasty variants did not go to hospital or die.
Saturday February 22nd 2020. My wife and I both became very poorly
and spent 4 days in bed. We had very bad flu like symptoms.
I have a weak chest which is prone to infection and so normally with
cold or flu it goes directly there and I have considerable phlegm but
not this time. I had a tickle cough never had that before in my life
and the mother and father of a sore throat. So bad that sipping soup
almost all day and night was the only relief. It was bad. A high
temperature and few other nasties too.
At that time of course there were no tests available to buy and
certainly no vaccines. It took us 5 weeks to recover.
Also at the time, we were constantly being told it wasn't in the
country yet but we now know it was here before christmas 2019.
So we had the key symptoms of covid, we were very poorly and unvaxed
at that time. we eventually recovered.
Can I prove I had covid Feb 2020 no of course I can't but I know we
did.
> > I've seen no evidence vaccines do much good but they do do harm.
> The evidence is that the episode your cousin has is now as bad as
> it gets.
That's mutation, I thought everyone knew that by now. Standard virus
behaviour.
> If you cant see that, don't get jabbed and die in a respirator
> gasping for breath, like so many others have.
That's very disappointing to see you talk like this. Hateful for no
good reason.
I thought you were logical.
Bob.
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