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      TimS  wrote:   
   > On 13 Feb 2024 at 09:50:25 GMT, "Bob Latham"    
   wrote:   
      
   > > In article ,   
   > >    Lawrence D'Oliveiro  wrote:   
   > >   
   > >> Online misinformation is a whole new can of worms.   
   > >   
   > > Who decides which is misinformation and which is censoring the   
   > > truth?   
   > >   
   > > During covid we were continuously told this and that were   
   > > "misinformation" or a conspiracy theory. Someone decided.   
      
   > Well, you figure it out.   
      
   I certainly have a view which is probably different from yours. I   
   have things I'm very sure of, things probable but not certain, so a   
   range of confidence in many aspects.   
      
   I do remember a tremendous number of people demanding all sorts of   
   extreme actions against those that didn't want the vaccine. It opened   
   my eyes to how quickly normal people could become unhinged and   
   barbaric. People should be able to decide if they want the medication   
   or not, extreme pressure placed on people was disgusting.   
      
   Demands like removing them from society to basically concentration   
   camps, holding then down and forcibly injecting to the more mild   
   banning them from work, theatres, restaurants etc.   
      
   The government sacked thousands of care workers for refusing the jab,   
   they were told they would kill granny.   
      
   As was admitted in a some sort of tribunal in the EU, (there's a   
   video) the manufacturer Pfizer if I recall correctly, said that no   
   testing of transmission was ever done. There was never any basis for   
   the madness. Some have since apologised most have not, most notably   
   the unhinged media.   
      
   Certainly I can't think of anyone I know that hasn't had covid, not   
   one. A good proportion have had it twice and some 3 times. I don't   
   know anyone who didn't have the first 3 jabs at least.   
      
   I'm 90% sure that the vaccine does not affect transmission.   
   They *may* help if you get infected not seen enough data.   
   Vaccines have caused many people serious injury.   
   Masks even N95 masks are useless they're just theatre.   
   Asymptomatic transmission was never a serious factor, I will not   
   claim it didn't happen but for the most part it was propaganda from   
   the nudge units.   
      
   PCR testing in the UK used double the sensible levels of   
   amplification cycles. People who should know said you could find   
   anything in anyone with that level of amplification.   
      
   Remember the videos from China of people dropping dead at bus stops.   
   Total propaganda never happened.   
      
   Isolation will prevent transmission where no one in the group is   
   infected. But the cost, not just in money but in medical issues of   
   all sorts is horrendous. See current off the scale excess deaths   
   figures, it's either lockdown or vaccines you decide.   
      
   Eventually when lockdown ends, the wave starts again just delayed   
   which *may* be helpful.   
      
   I'm 75% sure the virus was as a result of 'gain of function' work in   
   a lab and not a natural cross over from Bats.   
      
   > We were told the vaccines were coming, and they did,   
      
   Yes, remarkably quickly, too quickly.   
      
   > and I've taken every one that has since been offered, and guess   
   > what, I've never had Covid.   
      
   You're an exception at least you would be here.   
      
   > Meanwhile we were also told that the vaccines didn't work,   
      
   I'm not saying they didn't but I don't think there is any good   
   evidence that they did.   
      
   > caused millions of fatalities,   
      
   At the moment, that looks like overstating things.   
      
   I'm sure there have been many serious injuries and that people have   
   died, I've not seen enough data yet to go beyond that.   
      
   > were the spawn of Satan, were an attempt to control us all with   
   > microchips, etc.   
      
   That's not rational.   
      
   > So no prizes for guessing which viewpoint I support.   
      
   My wife and I had the first 3 jabs. Had we known then what we think   
   we know now, including what happened to us, we would not have done so.   
      
   There are some very interesting graphs from a university about a   
   month ago showing all cause mortalities and when they happened.   
   Certainly a surprise to me. Didn't support the narrative.   
      
   I CBA to go find them now, didn't expect to need them.   
      
   I wouldn't mind betting that the total number of deaths caused   
   directly by covid are as nothing compares to the results of the   
   government's actions in response.   
      
   Thousands of excess deaths every month, the media is silent and the   
   government will not debate it in parliament. Draw your own conclusion.   
      
   Anyway it's just my opinion.   
      
      
   Bob.   
      
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