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   On 13 Feb 2024 at 12:14:57 GMT, "Ahem A Rivet's Shot"    
   wrote:   
      
   > On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 09:29:08 +0000   
   > The Natural Philosopher  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 12/02/2024 20:23, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:   
   >>> On 12 Feb 2024 19:10:53 GMT   
   >>> TimS  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> We don't actually give a flying fuck about that. There was never any   
   >>>> justification for these weapons to be in private hands anyway.   
   >>>   
   >>>     Questionable justification for them to be in any hands IMHO.   
   >>   
   >> I think what is happening in Ukraine fully justifies their existence and   
   >> use.  Because if the other side has them, you are going to be walked all   
   >   
   >     Yes that's always the justification - "the bad guys have them",   
   > therein lies the problem.   
   >   
   >> over unless you have them, too.   
   >   
   >     The ideal (almost certainly unreachable) state is that nobody has   
   > them. I can't help feeling that there should be a better solution to some   
   > people having them than everyone having them - because that's not a   
   > solution.   
      
   Sure it's a solution. You may not like it, but it's a solution. All you're   
   doing is belling the cat.   
      
   --   
   Tim   
      
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