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   On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 09:29:08 +0000   
   The Natural Philosopher wrote:   
      
   > On 12/02/2024 20:23, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:   
   > > On 12 Feb 2024 19:10:53 GMT   
   > > TimS wrote:   
   > >   
   > >> We don't actually give a flying fuck about that. There was never any   
   > >> justification for these weapons to be in private hands anyway.   
   > >   
   > > Questionable justification for them to be in any hands IMHO.   
   > >   
   >   
   > I think what is happening in Ukraine fully justifies their existence and   
   > use. Because if the other side has them, you are going to be walked all   
      
    Yes that's always the justification - "the bad guys have them",   
   therein lies the problem.   
      
   > over unless you have them, too.   
      
    The ideal (almost certainly unreachable) state is that nobody has   
   them. I can't help feeling that there should be a better solution to some   
   people having them than everyone having them - because that's not a   
   solution.   
      
   --   
   Steve O'Hara-Smith   
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