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   druck  wrote:   
   > On 02/02/2024 14:47, druck wrote:   
   > > On 31/01/2024 03:43, 68g.1499 wrote:   
   > >>    "Popular" systems - Win/Android/Mac - are going to be the   
   > >>    primary targets, bots and such optimized for them. Linux   
   > >>    proper is there, but not super-popular by the percentages.   
   > >>    Win in particular is a security disaster and most users   
   > >>    are know-nothings, best to put efforts there.   
   > >   
   > > No,these days they are looking to recruit POS Chinese IOT stuff running,   
   > > such as security cameras, "smart" kitchen app licences and god knows   
   > > what else.   
   >   
   > Not even your toothbrush is safe!   
   >   
   > https://www.tomshardware.com/networking/three-million-malware-   
   nfected-smart-toothbrushes-used-in-swiss-ddos-attacks-botnet-cau   
   es-millions-of-euros-in-damages   
      
   That may not actually be true.  One of the 'major brands' of smart   
   toothbrushes just does Bluetooth to the phone app, and the data sent is just   
   things like battery level and head pressure:   
   https://filestore.fortinet.com/fortiguard/research/toothbrush.pdf   
      
   Which is not to say that some other brand doesn't have an internet-enabled   
   chip in there, but battery life would be bad and these things tend to   
   operate from small batteries which are wirelessly-charged once a week or   
   less.  Also, to have the world's largest botnet outed in an obscure Swiss   
   newspaper seems a bit suspect.   
      
   The presentation above has some valid points about dumb cloud apps and   
   smart-toothbrush-linked dental insurance ("the better you brush the less you   
   pay") but that's a different thing from a botnet.   
      
   Theo   
      
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