15 Sep 16 21:37, you wrote to me:   
      
    ML>> then sign up with a free service... there are several available...   
    ML>> heck, for that matter, sign up with a bbs account ;)   
      
    AP> I have an Icloud account...   
      
   i know... it was evident in the control lines from your mailing list posts...   
   there was also something about a alprunty[dot]com...   
      
    AP> I was running SMTP/POP on my BBS but since I dropped winserver I no   
    AP> longer have a SMTP/POP solution.  If I could find something that would   
    AP> translate it to the BBS I would do it in a new york minute.  I've yuet   
    AP> to find something to do that for me yet with the exception of internet   
    AP> rex and I've not been able to get that to work reliably.   
      
   you have to think old school... fidonet has been doing this gating thing since   
   the '80s... FRED was one of those i used way back but then GIGO came out and i   
   switched to it because there was a native OS/2 version... it does   
   email<->netmail fairly well... it has other capabilities, too, but they may   
   require additional software...   
      
    ML>> i have maybe 15 or 20 email addresses that i check every day...   
    ML>> thunderbird hits them all at once when i tell it to check... many of   
    ML>> my email addresses are on my own email server but i've also several   
    ML>> gmail, yahoo, and hotmail addresses...   
      
    AP> That's too many for me to keep track of...   
      
   what is there to keep track of?   
      
    AP> Much rather work on the KISS (Keep it stupid simple) philosophy.   
      
   and get stuck in a rut? ;)   
      
    AP> I use icloud because Apple is very anti big-brother.  G-mail and the   
    AP> others if you read their TOS they store the e-mail indefinately on   
    AP> their systems for marketing research.  I don't trust them.... workign   
    AP> for the government e-mail and trust is a big thing.  (Which is the one   
    AP> issue I have with Hillary)   
      
   good grief... it is only a piddly little mailing list that you're after... not   
   top secret nuclear facility access and launch codes... set up a gmail, yahoo   
   or hotmail account as AP_elebbs@whatever and get your mailing list support as   
   needed... set up one address for each list or whatever... it isn't hard, it   
   isn't anything extra to keep up with and it really doesn't hurt at all...   
      
   on the other hand, though, i might just ask mike about gating it to fidonet...   
   i'm surprised it isn't already but it does have long periods of silence...   
      
    ML>> sorry but spamcop doesn't eat anything... it is a reporting service   
    ML>> only... your provider is filtering based on the results of queries to   
    ML>> the spamcop database... i used spamcop for several years to take back   
    ML>> my email acount from the spammers... i used to get over 300 spams a   
    ML>> day   
      
    AP> It's not the spamcop it's the "brightmail" that they use.  If a   
    AP> mailing list does not conform to the new "spoof" proof mailing list   
    AP> standards it won't work.  I can toatally see why it would reject   
    AP> because most mailing list software now sends from the list name on   
    AP> behalf of the user.  Previously (and yahoogroups used to work this   
    AP> way) it would send directly in the user's name and e-mail address.   
      
   that depends on the settings of the mailing list... you can thank the spammers   
   for all this crap and hardship, though... the easiest solution i see is   
   detailed above with gmail, yahoo, or hotmail... and not to OS bash but i   
   really really hate seeing my friends struggling and struggling with   
   winwhatever and being unable to do what they want/need when they had it for   
   literally pennies years ago when they were running OS/2... i still run OS/2   
   and the same software i was running then... winwhatever is a "has been"   
   here... linux is the new thing and i hate to admit that i am considering   
   moving my entier OS/2 operation over to linux... hell, linux even comes with   
   its own SMTP servers that can deliver to something like GIGO... expand your   
   horizons and get out of that sticky gooey GUI mess :wink:   
      
    AP> Now that the mailservers authenticate that the person really sent the   
    AP> mail I can totally appreciate the rejection of it.  In fact many of   
    AP> the "free" providers... especially Google, Yahoo, AOL or   
    AP> Outlook.com/hotmail will reject if the mail is not authenticated   
    AP> properly since they were the ones who developed this standard   
    AP> collectively.   
      
   they've added unneeded complexity to a simple problem...   
      
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