From: nilknocgeo@earthlink.net   
      
   "Stephen Sprunk"  wrote in message   
   news:lp42m1$vf1$3@dont-email.me...   
   > On 03-Jul-14 09:38, conklin wrote:   
   >> "Stephen Sprunk"  wrote in message   
   >> news:lp3jnq$mf9$1@dont-email.me...   
   >>> On 03-Jul-14 06:39, conklin wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>> "Stephen Sprunk"  wrote in message   
   >>>> news:lp2589$rng$1@dont-email.me...   
   >>>>> On 02-Jul-14 13:48, conklin wrote:   
   >>>>>> "Stephen Sprunk"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>> news:lp1g5u$796$1@dont-email.me...   
   >>>>>>> The US has a very large installed base of copper, unlike   
   >>>>>>> developing countries, and a lower population density than   
   >>>>>>> other developed countries, which makes switching to fiber   
   >>>>>>> more costly.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Only if fiber optic is used only for POTS.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> That doesn't affect the _cost_ of the conversion at all.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> The phone company can then begin to sell TV and Internet,   
   >>>>>> which can raise my bill from $30 a month to $160, including,   
   >>>>>> of course HBO.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> That only needs FTTN, not FTTH.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> What it does need is fiber optic, not copper.   
   >>>   
   >>> You have no clue what you're talking about.   
   >>>   
   >>> _Both_ involve fiber.   
   >>>   
   >> Just like I said.  And the copper is irrelevant.   
   >   
   > It's obviously relevant because you're saying those things "need" fiber   
   > when we have existence proof that they can be delivered over copper.   
   >   
   >> I expect to have fiber directly into the house, replacing all the   
   >> copper, even that built into the walls throughout the house.   
   >   
   > You can "expect" that all you want, as long as you're the one paying the   
   > bill to make it happen.   
   >   
      
   You keep changing the subject.  Phone companies were not created by me, or   
   you either.  They are a public utility and you pay what they ask.   
      
      
      
   > There is no need for fiber inside the home; even with FTTH, the fiber   
   > usually stops at/near the demarc, and it's copper inside the home.   
   >   
   > S   
     Not what I have to do.  They will install new outlets inside the house, so   
   I have to be home.   
      
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