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   Message 920 of 3,261   
   Stephen Sprunk to Adam H. Kerman   
   Re: Trains Magazine--"modern streetcar"    
   03 Jul 14 12:05:26   
   
   From: stephen@sprunk.org   
      
   On 03-Jul-14 09:39, Adam H. Kerman wrote:   
   > Stephen Sprunk  wrote:   
   >> On 01-Jul-14 16:26, Calvin Henry-Cotnam wrote:   
   >>> It is not the use of the handset that is the distraction, it is   
   >>> the conversation that one has on the phone. This is NOT the same   
   >>> as a conversation with a passenger present in the vehicle.   
   >>   
   >> Actually, studies show that the accident rate is just as high when   
   >> the driver is having a conversation with someone in the car as with   
   >> someone on the other end of a phone call.   
   >   
   > No, they don't. It's possible for the other passenger in the care to   
   > notice whatever the driver failed to pay attention to and shut the   
   > fuck up in time for the driver to resume driving attentively and   
   > avoid the collision. That's not the case with a remote caller.   
      
   The issue is not listening; there is _no_ adverse effect from radio   
   usage, for instance.  So the passenger (or caller) shutting up doesn't   
   matter.  In fact, it might make things worse because then the driver   
   gets distracted by responding.   
      
   There is apparently some fundamental conflict between driving and the   
   speech center of the brain.  _That_ is the issue.   
      
   > Multiple teenage passengers in a car with a teenage driver are an   
   > incredibly serious distraction, however.   
      
   So are crying infants/toddlers, yet they don't cause many accidents.   
      
   > There's also a theory that hands free is MORE dangerous for certain   
   > drivers who make a lot of hand gestures while talking because they   
   > just don't hold onto the steering wheel, but holding a handset to   
   > talk, they don't gesture.   
      
   Never heard that one.  Interesting.   
      
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