From: heller@deepsoft.com   
      
   At Thu, 03 Jul 2014 12:14:41 -0500 Stephen Sprunk  wrote:   
      
   >   
   > On 02-Jul-14 21:57, Robert Heller wrote:   
   > > At Wed, 02 Jul 2014 18:36:58 -0500 Stephen Sprunk   
   > >  wrote:   
   > >> On 02-Jul-14 16:42, Robert Heller wrote:   
   > >>> At Wed, 02 Jul 2014 12:40:12 -0500 Stephen Sprunk   
   > >>>  wrote:   
   > >>>> What?  Verizon is still the ILEC for a big chunk of the   
   > >>>> country.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> No, they have sold off most of their *copper* landline business   
   > >>> and are concentrating on wireless.  (At least on the East   
   > >>> coast.)   
   > >>   
   > >> FairPoint bought Verizon's ILEC business in ME, NH and VT, and   
   > >> Frontier got their ILEC business in AZ, ID, IL, IN, MI, NV, NC, OH,   
   > >> OR, SC, WA, WV and WI.  According to Wonkypedia, this "...   
   > >> primarily involved rural   
   > >   
   > > And NY.   
   >   
   > Just upstate NY, or NYC too?  I thought that was still Verizon.   
      
   Don't know about NYC.  Upstate NY, yes Frontier.   
      
   >   
   > >> exchanges that were formerly a part of the GTE system ..."   
   > >>   
   > >> So, one could say that Verizon was ditching _rural_ landlines, but   
   > >> they don't seem to be ditching urban/suburban landlines, which they   
   > >> really only had a lot of in the non-GTE parts of their   
   > >> territory--and that is also where they are pushing FiOS, which   
   > >> probably isn't a coincidence.   
   > >   
   > > Pretty much the only _rural_ landlines Verizon still has are in   
   > > Western Mass. They would love to sell it, but can't because no one   
   > > (in their right mind) would buy it without also demanding that the   
   > > FiOS in Eastern Mass be part of the deal.   
   >   
   > AFAIK, they haven't ditched any former GTE exchanges in Texas, even   
   > though AT&T is the dominant ILEC here.  Then again, it would look really   
   > bad if their own HQ was served by a competitor...   
   >   
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