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   Message 917 of 3,261   
   Stephen Sprunk to conklin   
   Re: Trains Magazine--"modern streetcar"    
   03 Jul 14 12:08:16   
   
   From: stephen@sprunk.org   
      
   On 03-Jul-14 09:38, conklin wrote:   
   > "Stephen Sprunk"  wrote in message   
   > news:lp3jnq$mf9$1@dont-email.me...   
   >> On 03-Jul-14 06:39, conklin wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>> "Stephen Sprunk"  wrote in message   
   >>> news:lp2589$rng$1@dont-email.me...   
   >>>> On 02-Jul-14 13:48, conklin wrote:   
   >>>>> "Stephen Sprunk"  wrote in message   
   >>>>> news:lp1g5u$796$1@dont-email.me...   
   >>>>>> The US has a very large installed base of copper, unlike   
   >>>>>> developing countries, and a lower population density than   
   >>>>>> other developed countries, which makes switching to fiber   
   >>>>>> more costly.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Only if fiber optic is used only for POTS.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> That doesn't affect the _cost_ of the conversion at all.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> The phone company can then begin to sell TV and Internet,   
   >>>>> which can raise my bill from $30 a month to $160, including,   
   >>>>> of course HBO.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> That only needs FTTN, not FTTH.   
   >>>   
   >>> What it does need is fiber optic, not copper.   
   >>   
   >> You have no clue what you're talking about.   
   >>   
   >> _Both_ involve fiber.   
   >>   
   > Just like I said.  And the copper is irrelevant.   
      
   It's obviously relevant because you're saying those things "need" fiber   
   when we have existence proof that they can be delivered over copper.   
      
   > I expect to have fiber directly into the house, replacing all the   
   > copper, even that built into the walls throughout the house.   
      
   You can "expect" that all you want, as long as you're the one paying the   
   bill to make it happen.   
      
   There is no need for fiber inside the home; even with FTTH, the fiber   
   usually stops at/near the demarc, and it's copper inside the home.   
      
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