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   "Robert Heller" wrote in message   
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   > At Tue, 1 Jul 2014 17:49:37 +0000 (UTC) "Adam H. Kerman"    
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >>   
   >> conklin wrote:   
   >> >"Adam H. Kerman" wrote:   
   >> >>conklin wrote:   
   >>   
   >> >>>The rural coopertives do better. SkyBest in the Boone, NC area, has   
   >> >>>put in FIOS at my cabin, a place with such a view that only one house   
   >> >>>is visible, and that is in the distance. . . .   
   >>   
   >> >>Yes, George. Must be lovely to have other people pay for your   
   >> >>infrastructure.   
   >>   
   >> >You never know anything except how to be nasty.   
   >>   
   >> Sorry you think the truth is nasty, but the ratepayers belonging to that   
   >> rural cooperative are NOT the ones paying for your infrastructure. That   
   >> would be paid for by a surcharge on fees on everyone else's phone bills   
   >> elsewhere in the country.   
   >>   
   >> Do you really believe there's a business case for building a fiber plant   
   >> in   
   >> a rural area?   
   >   
   > Actually there is. Just not a business case that the likes of Verizon   
   > would   
   > buy into. The deal is that since *municiple cooperatives* don't have to   
   > make   
   > a ROI or profit in a year (or less), they can afford to get 20 year bonds   
   > and   
   > spend 20 years paying down the capital costs of the infrastructure. That   
   > is,   
   > the business model that works involves a 20 year investment time frame.   
   > The   
   > private telecom sector can/will only operate on a 1-2 year investment time   
   > frame. This is no different that rural electrification (or rural phone   
   > service). If it was not for *municiple cooperatives*, rural America would   
   > *still* be without electricity or phone service. As it is, rural America   
   > generally has crappy phone service and America's electrical grid is aging   
   > (badly).   
   >   
   > Checkout http://www.wiredwest.net/ for more information.   
   >   
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   Correct. And the roads in rural areas are being neglected even more than in   
   the past. Our local libertraians are pushing for basically abandoning rural   
   road improvements except to through roads...the functional equivalent of   
   flyover country.   
      
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