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   Message 817 of 3,261   
   Nobody to stephen@sprunk.org   
   Re: more time zones   
   24 Jun 14 15:59:30   
   
   From: jock@soccer.com   
      
   On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 14:01:39 -0500, Stephen Sprunk   
    wrote:   
      
   >On 24-Jun-14 11:49, Nobody wrote:   
   >> On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 09:28:04 -0500, Stephen Sprunk   
   >>  wrote:   
   >>> On 23-Jun-14 22:17, Adam H. Kerman wrote:   
   >>>> Stephen Sprunk  wrote:   
   >   
   >Please trim your quotes to just the part you're replying to.   
   >   
   >>>>> There are indeed exceptions.  A former coworker from Canada   
   >>>>> kept getting hassled during business trips to the US and was   
   >>>>> eventually denied entry.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Why?   
   >>>   
   >>> He was visiting the US often enough and/or for long enough that   
   >>> they suspected his visits were "work" rather than "business   
   >>> meetings" as he claimed.  Those are very different under   
   >>> immigration law; the latter is okay under a tourist visa (or visa   
   >>> waiver), but the former is not.   
   >>   
   >> Though if he was a permanent resident of Canada or a citizen, there   
   >> are "applicable" rules under NAFTA to cover that... but the devil as   
   >> always is in the details of his situation!   
   >   
   >The final decision to admit or deny someone at the border rests with the   
   >immigration officer, period, even if the traveler already has a visa.   
   >   
   >NAFTA did result in new visa types, but IIRC they're for temporary   
   >workers--not a category he was applying for admission under since he   
   >wasn't going to "work" in the US.  And I'm not sure he could apply for   
   >that at the port of entry anyway, as he could a tourist visa.   
   >   
   >So, we got him an immigrant visa and green card; that way it doesn't   
   >matter if the officer thinks he's going to "work" in the US because   
   >that's now legal for him.  Of course, he doesn't want to "work" here at   
   >all, much less immigrate, but it makes the officers happy.   
   >   
   >S   
      
   As I said: devil in details.   
      
    I have personal knowledge of a professional person employed by a   
   trans-border joint venture where the employee 'worked' under NAFTA   
   rules for considerable periods in Bellingham, WA though his primary   
   employment was with the Canadian operation based in Metro Vancouver,   
   BC.   
      
   And as an addenda, all recompense was as a Canadian so the IRS weren't   
   involved.   
      
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