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   Message 806 of 3,261   
   Nobody to ahk@chinet.com   
   Re: more time zones   
   24 Jun 14 12:05:30   
   
   From: jock@soccer.com   
      
   On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 17:55:13 +0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"   
    wrote:   
      
   >Nobody  wrote:   
   >>"Adam H. Kerman"  wrote:   
   >>>Nobody  wrote:   
   >   
   >>>>And for practical purposes, land crossing such as the Canadian border   
   >>>>require a passport.  Yeah, yeah, I know: passport cards, enhanced   
   >>>>driver's licences, and trusted traveller cards such as NEXUS also   
   >>>>qualify but the majority of casual crossers will be presenting   
   >>>>passports to return home to the US.  Only a handful of states have   
   >>>>enhanced licences anyway.   
   >   
   >>>Huh? States with international borders have these; other states don't.   
   >>>Why would other states go to the extraordinary expense of offering them   
   >>>to their own residents who wouldn't have need for them?   
   >   
   >>According to your own Homeland Security people, only FOUR states issue   
   >>a version that complies with the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative:   
   >   
   >>   
   >   
   >>Go grumble to them if the list isn't current.   
   >   
   >I have no idea what you're bitching about.   
      
   Please look at what YOU wrote: it isn't factually correct...   
      
   > Those four states have the   
   >major ports of entry driving in from Canada. Idaho, Montana, North Dakota,   
   >Minnesota, New Hampshire, and Maine don't have major ports of entry.   
   >   
   >>Canadians have a high possession rate of passports (somewhere in the   
   >>range of 70-75% if the Feds website is to be believed) so for casual   
   >>crossers, the time/hoops to be jumped through/extra expense aren't   
   >>worth the effort.  One just doesn't walk up to a NEXUS office and walk   
   >>out the same day with a pass.   
   >   
   >It's been explained to you that Americans didn't obtain passports for   
   >international travel until they had a reason to, which is undoubtably   
   >true of people everywhere. A Detroiter going to the nudie bars in Windsor   
   >never had a reason to obtain a passport until just a few years ago.   
   >International travel to experience Canadian culture or pharmaceuticals   
   >wasn't an obstacle.   
      
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